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re: Biden leaning towards canceling 10K in student loan debt if u earn less than 125K

Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:45 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296951 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:45 am to

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Not everybody wants to eat lunch at twice daily, carry around a cracked phone screen, and have monster drink cans fill up their car floor.


This is exactly how I picture you, after your meltdown about gas prices.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:46 am to
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This is exactly how I picture you, after your meltdown about gas prices.


I’m not a try hard tradie butthurt about people with degrees.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37102 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:47 am to
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to be fair, it sounds like you were able to accomplish that goal.


Im also a top earner for my age. That's not a brag, it just is what it is. And I bought a townhouse that I put a ton of sweat equity in and completely remodeled by myself with my dad. My dad is semi retired and works from home so he was able to "gc" for me while I was at work during the day.

I have enough brain power to realize that my situation isn't typical of the average American. They don't make as much money as I do, they didn't have the help and structure I had growing up, and they don't have the time and/or resources that I had
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59092 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:50 am to
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why wouldn’t others be able to?

the vast majority of others aren't making high 5 figs-low 6 figs in their 20s/early 30s, and that's pretty much required to get a house in any metro area where there is a stable job market.

i've repeated this many times, but the cratering public school system is a huge factor in this. makes a lot of lower COL areas uninhabitable for decent middle class people. there's simply a lot more trash than there used to be... and there's already a shortage in housing supply.

eta: look at many of the "first ring" suburbs of sunbelt cities that have a lot of 1400 sq "starter houses". these are section 8 now.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40301 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:50 am to
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I have enough brain power to realize that my situation isn't typical of the average American. They don't make as much money as I do, they didn't have the help and structure I had growing up, and they don't have the time and/or resources that I had


You're doing it wrong
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86118 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:51 am to
This will also be a bailout for blue states with high concentration of borrowers.


new hmapshire, Delaware, PA, rhode island and minnesota have the worst student loan debt.

This is probably why they vote blue, its vote buying without actually having to spend any of your money.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11744 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:52 am to
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Median home price in the USA has reached $428,000.

Median household income with a college degree is ~$100,000.


Lets be conservative - If you saved $20k per year of your $100k salary towards buying a home (should be very easy) for 5 years you now have $100k saved up (that's without any investment growth). Just running #s in my head if you put 20% down (still leaves you with $15k in reserves) your monthly payment likely comes out to around $2k per month. Not ideal but certainly manageable on a $100k salary. Now would I do that? No, but there are plenty of nice houses to be bought in the $280k range. Add a 2nd income from a spouse or rent out a bedroom and it becomes very easy
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by Skeauxbie
Cape Coral, FL
Member since Jan 2008
78 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:53 am to
Imagine my daughter who worked her arse off in HS to get scholarships for which she has to pay taxes on anything over tuition cost. What message does that send?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42969 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:54 am to
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there are plenty of nice houses to be bought in the $280k range


Im fricking laughing internally as I stare at the DFW Housing Market
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37102 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:55 am to
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Just running #s in my head if you put 20% down (still leaves you with $15k in reserves)


What about closing costs? You're going to completely deplete yourself of cash? How old were you when you crossed that $100k mark? For the sake of your arguement, let's say 26 to be generous. That'd put you owning a home at around 31. Many people have kids by 31. You aren't saving 20% of gross with kids.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37102 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:55 am to
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there are plenty of nice houses to be bought in the $280k range


Im fricking laughing internally as I stare at the DFW Housing Market


You can get 1,400 sq ft in Duncanville baw
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17215 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:56 am to
Show me the money.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59092 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:56 am to
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Lets be conservative - If you saved $20k per year of your $100k salary towards buying a home (should be very easy)
quote:

No, but there are plenty of nice houses to be bought in the $280k range. A
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11744 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:56 am to
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I stare at the DFW Housing Market

There are plenty of markets where this doesn't work. No one said you had to buy there. If you insist on living in an expensive area you have to put in more work and take more risks
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42969 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:57 am to
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You can get 1,400 sq ft in Duncanville baw


Ive legit heard NO ONE ever say they wanted to live in Duncanville my guy lol.

Dont worry I already closed on a house.

280K in DFW in desirable areas are almost non-existent.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88781 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:57 am to
$125k is poor by OT standards but now that's considered too poor to live up to your obligations? isn't that sheepskin what helped you get the position paying you that? so I want an education, degree, qualifications, etc., I just want it given to me, got it
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42969 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:57 am to
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There are plenty of markets where this doesn't work. No one said you had to buy there. If you insist on living in an expensive area you have to put in more work and take more risks


Here we go again with this trope.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:59 am to
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There are plenty of markets where this doesn't work. No one said you had to buy there. If you insist on living in an expensive area you have to put in more work and take more risks
And if your $100k job becomes a $60-70k job in a cheaper market, can you do the math for me then?

Oh, and you aren’t taken home $100k. That is pre-taxes. Subtract taxes from it.

Or, how about, your job doesn’t exist outside of a certain market.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 10:01 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59092 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:59 am to
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There are plenty of markets where this doesn't work. No one said you had to buy there.
if you're making 100k earl-ish in life, you pretty much do have to live in one of these high COL areas (and DFW isn't even particularly high COL).
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11676 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:00 am to
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People need to fix their attitude and learn that time is their most valuable commodity so quit wasting it


Do you realize how bad everything you just said sounds? Only in America is it expected for people to have to work 2 to 3x as hard to be able to afford housing. The system is completely fricked.
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