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re: Biden considering executive action on gun control

Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:10 pm to
And? Trump was not perfect. He was far too reactionary to crisis.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6340 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:12 pm to
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Unconstitutional. Full stop. End of story.

So is taking voting requirements and procedures from duly elected state legislatures explicitly charged and obligated to legislate and enforce them. I don't think SCOTUS is up to the task of recognizing what's unconstitutional and what's not.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14546 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:12 pm to
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He is a damn liar. There was zero correlation on mass shootings and "assault" weapons.



Correct. That's why it expired- it didn't work on fighting crime. The only thing it accomplished was suppressing what legal gun owners had access to.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4723 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:14 pm to
Imagine if Trump was considering executive action on abortion. Why is that implied constitutional rights matter while explicit ones do not?

Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4062 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Unconstitutional. Full stop. End of story.


You could not be more correct, my fear though, is who will stop them? The SCOTUS caves on everything, the "legislative" branch is useless.....

We can scream "unconstitutional" until the end of time but it means nothing if our checks and balances are completely broken.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:15 pm to
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Imagine if Trump was considering executive action on abortion


We don’t have to imagine. He did sign one on abortion.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44297 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:17 pm to
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He did sign one on abortion.


Abortion is specifically outlined in the US Constitution?

Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:17 pm to
What amendment is that?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14546 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Member when god emperor signed an order to ban bump stocks? I member




What gun did he ban?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10361 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:19 pm to
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The SCOTUS caves on everything


Absolutely. Supreme Court is now filled with cowards that are easily swayed by political and societal whims instead of upholding the constitution.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11517 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:19 pm to
I really wish they'd make drugs illegal while they're at it, because they kill more people than homicide by gun. If only stuff like heroin was illegal, then no one would be able to get their hands on them and we'd save a lot of lives. We just need more laws and people won't want to break laws and everything will be dandy.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:22 pm to
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Would never pass the SC, when lawsuits hit, they will crush his EO and rule it unconstitutional .


This Supreme Court will never stand up for us. Someone has some very nasty, compromising information on Roberts. It's really bad.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24484 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Does anyone fact check this guy?

The fact checkers that get the most views are already biased towards him. That’s why so many people that complained about Trump lying have no clue how much lying and flip flopping Biden did during his campaign and now.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:26 pm to
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Unconstitutional. Full stop. End of story.


Apparently it wasn’t unconstitutional when Trump banned bump stocks with executive order. Set a terrible precedent for Biden to continue with.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9799 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:27 pm to
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When they say, "we can't get anything done in Congress" they fail to realize that's a feature, not a bug.




The filibuster is not how government is supposed to work. They've got the votes under normal rules.

There are only a few main things they're looking at that all have BROAD public support:

- enhanced and universal background checks (84% of GOP voters support)

- "Red Flag" laws allowing court-ordered confiscation of weapons from mentally disturbed individuals (Trump and McConnell both touted support for this one, coupled with ~70% support from GOP voters)

- licensure for gun ownership (65% GOP voter support)

- limiting magazine capacities (51% GOP voter support)


These are just common sense items. The 2nd amendment alludes to a "well regulated militia". None of these items infringe upon that descriptor, none of them are trying to take away guns from responsible gun owners, and none of them are radical ideas.

I'm surprisingly supportive of the 2nd amendment and gun ownership. That said, we can't allow every Tom, Dick, and Harry to run around with extremely dangerous weapons that can kill dozens of people within moments with absolutely no oversight, qualifications, or regulation. I mean, frick, you can't even drive a car without insurance these days but you can obtain weapons and ammunition designed for mass carnage with very little oversight?
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 3:28 pm
Posted by bonescanner
Member since Oct 2011
2563 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:28 pm to
question here as I was too young to pay attention. did the previous "assault weapon ban" get reviewed by the supreme court?
Posted by Fortnight2Flat
Member since Mar 2021
223 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:28 pm to
The people will never be secure as long as the police force has access to weapons that the people do not.

That the founding fathers were not more forward thinking on this - or more specific if they were - is their single greatest fault.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11147 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:29 pm to
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Red Flag" laws allowing court-ordered confiscation of weapons from mentally disturbed individuals (Trump and McConnell both touted support for this one, coupled with ~70% support from GOP voters) - licensure for gun ownership (65% GOP voter support) - limiting magazine capacities (51% GOP voter support)


Will never happen. Sorry about your premature ejaculation
Posted by Flambeaux
Member since Feb 2021
137 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 3:29 pm to
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The people will never be secure as long as the police force has access to weapons that the people do not.


Again. Wait, what?
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