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re: Biblical prophecy and the war in Israel

Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by tjohn deaux
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:08 pm to
Some folk gonna be real surprised
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:14 pm to
I don’t think end of the world prophecies apply in any way, shape, or form to the physical land of Israel or the Jews that live there.

Jews don’t believe Christ was the Messiah, that he died for their sins and rose again. So to me, none of those prophecies are applicable. Just my opinion though, why speculate and theorize on it anyways. It’ll happen when it happens.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:14 pm to
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This thread is clear and decisive evidence that humans are irrational talking monkeys.

Gods, ghosts, demons, prophecy…

Belief in these things is mental illness.





You forgot to add the climate change doomsday believers who put their faith in computer models.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:16 pm to
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I am not a Bible scholar by any means so just interested in some different viewpoints of where this current war stands in your theories.

Totally unrelated.

The Bible doesn't exist to help you interpret current events, but rather how to treat your wife and kids, in additon to providing the meaning that it takes to get through life.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:17 pm to
Laugh all you want, the decay is real, and there is no return from it.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:17 pm to
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This could be it honestly. I'm not sure how much longer he's going to allow morality to decline. We already can't decide to only have 2 genders. Not sure how much further it can go on
shite was way worse in the past. Child whores walking the streets of cities, bestiality not uncommon, children sold off, slavery for millenia, far more war per capita, etc. Read some history, quit being self-centered. Your concerns are not special.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:19 pm to
The Edomites were forcibly assimilated by the Hasmoneans. They're no longer distinguishable from Jews.

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:25 pm to
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Laugh all you want, the decay is real, and there is no return from it.


I’ll have a hearty chuckle at your lack of historical perspective.
Posted by Globetrotter747
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 1:37 pm to
I’m embarrassed as a human being that a thread like this exists in 2023.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 2:00 pm to
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We wouldn't be in this predicament if Ishmael just would have been nicer to his little half brother. AMIRITE?



You probably have something there. When Ishmael and his mom Hagar were banished, God promised he would be a ruler of a great nation as well. That turned out to be the Arabs. Adnan, Muhammad, etc..

God made a covenant with Isaac and his descendants, which turned out to be the 12 tribes of Israel.

These two factions are still at war today and have been for thousands of years.. I think this one seems a little different though.

It's hard to argue any of the things said in this thread, believers and nonbelievers alike.

It's hard to wrap your head around some of the things in the bible. I do however believe in a higher power whom I choose to call God.

As for Jesus's return as dreamed by John of Patmos, in the book of revelations, it's some pretty weird stuff.

Not saying I believe or don't believe, but I try to live humble and righteous.... Just in case

Posted by Areddishfish
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 2:18 pm to
"I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you."
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 2:19 pm to
call me when a red heifer is born
Posted by Rabby
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:04 pm to
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We wouldn't be in this predicament if Ishmael just would have been nicer to his little half brother. AMIRITE?
Wrong.

We would not have been in this predicament if Abram had simply not bedded the domestic help as a flawed method of causing the blessings that God had promised him rather than continuing to trust God. Sadly, this choice fathered that "wild donkey of a man." His impatience is understandable by human terms, but forcing God's plan is never a good choice.

But that brings up a bigger question regarding his faith. While it is clear that God rewards the faith of Abram, the man actually went to Hagar because both he and Sarai thought that Sarai could not have children which to my thinking indicates a lack of faith.

Therefore, the whole concept of what constitutes faith acceptable to God eludes me.

Any serious thoughts would be appreciated.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:29 pm to
You make some very good points!!
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:30 pm to
And the thread must be anchored..
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 3:56 pm to
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the man actually went to Hagar because both he and Sarai thought that Sarai could not have children which to my thinking indicates a lack of faith.



She laughed when the angels told her she would have a baby boy.

That's how Yitzhak (Isaac) got his name. It comes from the Hebrew for laugh.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:18 pm to
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You forgot to add the climate change doomsday believers who put their faith in computer models.

Computer models layeth the smacketh down on prophecy anytime and anywhere.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:06 pm to
I disagree.

How accurate have computer global warming models been so far? Is there consistency between models?
This blog has a series of posts analyzing the various models and their predictions.


A study in the journal Science Advances

Have computer models consistently overestimated the rate and magnitude of global warming?
The best answer and commentary to this question is in the latest book by Steven Koonin, a professor at NYU and an authority in climate computer modeling. In his book Unsettled, he argues that out of forty climate computer models, which use super computers, 3D data and run several weeks to produce one model, none is able to produce current climate picture when fed decade old actual data. Some were able to come close but only after artificial tweaks. Yet our knowledge system continuous to rely on those models, favoring the ones with most catastrophic projections. Needless to say, the catastrophizers are the darlings of government central planners who tell us that by rearranging our lives we can control the trajectory of the Earth climate changes, most of all, that we can avert the looming apocalypse.

But the most significant failure of the IPCC computer modeling exercise is that it tries, in vain, to tie rise climate warming to increases of greenhouse gases concentration, particularly CO2, with an implied corollary that such changes, i.e., warming up of the Earth climate, is bad, actually outright disastrous, for humans and even the life on Earth, contrary to the climate short and long term history.

Yet there is no evidence that hurricanes are becoming more severe or frequent, that the sea level rises are accelerating, and that the climate is becoming less friendly to humans. Since the birth of the global warming movement we continue to have hot summers and cold winters, the Maldivas and Florida coast didn’t sink, and you still cannot use Northwest Passage to sail ice free around Canada, i.e., all things we were told in late 1980’s would happen in early 2000’s. Our knowledge system keeps harping on some magical tipping point that remains on perpetual ten-year horizon “unless we do something about it.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:26 pm to
Now do prophecy.
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