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re: Best colleges for elementary education in the state?
Posted on 1/14/21 at 12:01 am to GeismarGeauxer
Posted on 1/14/21 at 12:01 am to GeismarGeauxer
Any major university in the state can provide an adequate curriculum for you (or your kid). My wife went to LSU for undergrad and UNO for her M.Ed. She’ll being leaving the classroom at the end of this year for an admin role.
She said, with any degree, you get what you put in. You can go the C for degree route and be a mediocre teacher or really dive into the pedagogy and classroom management stuff.
I know there are a lot of jokes in here but elementary education goes up to fifth grade and there is a decent amount of science behind it all. It’s more about the delivering of the material than the subject matter for these grades.
Her team has graduates from Southeastern, UNO, Southern Miss, LSU, and Holy Cross.
She said, with any degree, you get what you put in. You can go the C for degree route and be a mediocre teacher or really dive into the pedagogy and classroom management stuff.
I know there are a lot of jokes in here but elementary education goes up to fifth grade and there is a decent amount of science behind it all. It’s more about the delivering of the material than the subject matter for these grades.
Her team has graduates from Southeastern, UNO, Southern Miss, LSU, and Holy Cross.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 12:02 am
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Posted on 1/14/21 at 12:04 am to Jim Rockford
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Northwestern was founded as the state teacher's college and education is still the major emphasis.
price wise this is the best deal, not like the teacher from Tulane or LSU will make more money
Posted on 1/14/21 at 12:07 am to GeismarGeauxer
A lot of my teachers and people I went to high school with went to Northwestern State University for their teaching degrees....
Posted on 1/14/21 at 12:57 am to GeismarGeauxer
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Best colleges for elementary education in the state?
Good ol MRS degree
Posted on 1/14/21 at 1:18 am to TigerintheNO
Our local HS had a Teach for America teacher from the Northwestern in Chicago. Probably 200k in college debt and she was making 40,000 a year.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 1:44 am to GeismarGeauxer
Who cares where you go for that. Just go where you can party the most
Posted on 1/14/21 at 4:33 am to GeismarGeauxer
Southeastern has a really good education program.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 5:34 am to GeismarGeauxer
Any college in the state that offers teaching.
They all pretty much offer the same level of education.
Go where it is most convenient for you for the next 4 years or less until you graduate and get certified and stay out of debt. Some even offer 1 or 2 year certifications for those with existing degrees.
No reason to get yourself into a new career with 50 to 60k in debt for a job that pays less than that in a year by going to the best college in your mind or someone else’s mind. The worst thing could happen is that you hate the field and quit.
Teachers are a hot commodity right now. There is a new wave of retirements due to COVID.
Last sage advice about wanting to become a teacher, don’t have sex with students.
No matter what they tell you, someone will find out.
They all pretty much offer the same level of education.
Go where it is most convenient for you for the next 4 years or less until you graduate and get certified and stay out of debt. Some even offer 1 or 2 year certifications for those with existing degrees.
No reason to get yourself into a new career with 50 to 60k in debt for a job that pays less than that in a year by going to the best college in your mind or someone else’s mind. The worst thing could happen is that you hate the field and quit.
Teachers are a hot commodity right now. There is a new wave of retirements due to COVID.
Last sage advice about wanting to become a teacher, don’t have sex with students.
No matter what they tell you, someone will find out.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 7:05 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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does it really matter?
Agree my ex was a teacher and when she graduated at ULL i attended the graduation.They gave out the award for most outstanding student. Oh they made it look like she had a struggled working part time , had a kid etc, 5 classes at a time etc...all the while maintaining a 4.00 gpa . i just thought to myself elementary education aint rocket science
Posted on 1/14/21 at 7:23 am to GeismarGeauxer
My wife went to LC and damn near all of her friends from there are teachers. It's a really expensive private school, but their bitching about their job on social media is head and shoulders above teachers who went to LSU or NSU....so I suppose maybe it's worth it
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 7:24 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 7:44 am to GeismarGeauxer
Go to the nearest community College for 2 years, then go wherever. Save money!
Posted on 1/14/21 at 7:49 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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does it really matter?
Being that you can be certified to teach after you get literally any 4 year degree first, not one bit.
When the salary is less than it costs to get a degree, all you gotta worry about is graduating somewhere
Posted on 1/14/21 at 7:59 am to NIH
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Just hope your daughter marries someone with a good job
Pro tip is send her to engineering building to find a future husband.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:03 am to GeismarGeauxer
If you are entering a field with capped salaries that are listed online for the world to see, why would it ever make sense to pay more for the degree? A teacher with a degree from LSU does not make more money than a teacher with a degree from Nicholls State.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:05 am to Eat Your Crow
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Illinois State University
Outstanding education major school. We lived there 8 years. My daughter is an ele ed major at Texas Tech. She often remarks she is glad we left Il. It is a tough state to live in.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:32 am to MoonRiver
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If you are entering a field with capped salaries that are listed online for the world to see, why would it ever make sense to pay more for the degree? A teacher with a degree from LSU does not make more money than a teacher with a degree from Nicholls State.
this. I dont understand why this is so hard for some people.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:35 am to lsu777
I wonder if you can test out of classes in that major.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:39 am to armsdealer
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Delta college charges poor girls $25k to become a Licensed Practical Nurse to make $14 an hour if they can find an LPN job. They could skip the "education" and make just as much working the register in the hospital cafeteria, have a better schedule and not have to clean shite. I am not even sure if even rural hospitals hire LPN's anymore.
yep, big rip off. way too many classes that are worthless to a certain extent. But there is something to be said for being educated about a broad range of topics. Its mind blowing to me, daily, the ignorance from otherwise intelligent people on normal everyday topics.
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Education in this country is a joke. The education of educators in this country is a bigger joke. Honestly education in this country at all levels is a joke. You can become an engineer getting 50% on your tests because they round that shite up to a 70 which is a C in Engineering but someone else fails out of a BSN program because you didn't make a 80% on a single test in the program so they have to repeat the semester because under an 80 is an F. Say you want to try a business degree after failing a couple semesters trying to be an engineer and have a 4.0 business GPA but a 1.9 GPA from you failed attempt at Engineering landing with a 2.9 overall. They won't let you IN business school because you were advised to take 18 hours including Calculus, Physics, Chemistry your first semester in school so you could be on track to double major in 3 years and didn't do well. Who the frick taught that adviser how to advise 17/18 year old KIDS if they come to that conclusion. frick the education system
I agree but nobody really takes calculus, chem and physics that isnt really bright and has the background for engineering. First off you cant go directly to calc unless you are pretty damn smart.
second, nobody forced you to take those classes all in the same semester. You knew they would be hard because if you are goign directly into those, you took them in high school. Stop being a douche bag and take personal responsibility for your actions.
third, you can always sit out 5 semester and go work, then declare academic bankruptcy.
again take responsibilities for your actions.
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You should be able to become an Engineer, Nurse, Accountant, Manager, etc. etc. without a 4 year university degree. I am not saying you don't need education, but a hybrid classroom/field apprenticeship would be way more beneficial than a Bachelors degree.
uhhh no. market place says you shouldnt, so no you shouldnt. frick off with that. Plenty of other jobs for the uneducated that make good money and are good careers.
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It won't get better until we take the government out of the system and let the market reshape what kind of education system we need for a modern world.
this we agree on.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:41 am to Gaston
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I wonder if you can test out of classes in that major.
I would think it would be just like other majors and be able to test out of general education stuff.
Not positive though, all the elementary education girls I knew were not the smartest. Good girls, but they were not going to be testing to go directly into calc
Posted on 1/14/21 at 8:49 am to ShoeBang
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Being that you can be certified to teach after you get literally any 4 year degree first, not one bit.
When the salary is less than it costs to get a degree, all you gotta worry about is graduating somewhere
And all the more reason to go cheap
It's one of the reasons so many of the "we're underpaid" arguments fall short.
You don't have to excel to get into school, or complete school, and your school doesn't matter much. No reason for you to take out substantial debt to get a competitive degree in a non-competitive field only to bitch at the rest of us when you knew all of this going into it.
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