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re: Bessemer, AL data center would use 2 million gallons of water a day

Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8168 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:42 pm to
Public officials should not be signing NDAs when the public land/money is involved. That is bullshite.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31664 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Public officials signing NDAs is something I've never heard of and it sure as hell shouldn't be allowed. WTF
This is Birmingham, Alabama (Bessmer) we're talking about. You'd be hard pressed to find a more corrupt, devious and scandal ridden operation than Jefferson County.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30260 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:52 pm to
they built a crypto data center in my hometown last year and it did not go over well. It's a farming community, about 2k total pop. You can't miss this thing as you come into town.

They got atleast 15' walls around the whole the thing because it's so unsightly and they drilled a well for it since the city wouldn't approve more than a 1 inch line to their "plant" - once again similar issue that the city simply couldn't handle the water output needed.

As far as why they can't recycle the water, I wonder why the problem? Because they can't recyle water at the crypto plant either and they dump that shite right back in the White river, which connects right into the Arkansas which is a main tributary for the Mississippi.

This crypto plant didn't even come with jobs, it's completely remote. They just get a sweet tax break from it or something like that. It's owned by a chinese company out of Tennessee

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26872 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:53 pm to
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As far as why they can't recycle the water, I wonder why the problem? Because they can't recyle water at the crypto plant either and they dump that shite right back in the White river, which connects right into the Arkansas which is a main tributary for the Mississippi.

they probably don't want to pay for the necessary system to cool the water down after it has been used...
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52859 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:55 pm to
Your average paper mill uses 50 million gallons of water a day
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31664 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 2:57 pm to
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The people should file FOIA requests for the emails, writings, etc done by all of those officials and I hope that causes a breach of the NDAs where all those officials gets sued and go bankrupt for supporting this nonsense.
HA! Jefferson County Alabama filed for bankruptcy in 2011, marking the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history, due to corruption and mismanagement related to its sewer system.
This post was edited on 7/22/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30260 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:00 pm to
i don't remember that being the case Chicken.



this one hums at about 100 decibels 24/7

Which is one of the many reason it got so much blowback
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18028 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:03 pm to
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If this isn’t already illegal it should be


Not saying it's right, but it's pretty standard when cities are negotiating with these big companies that they will sign NDAs. Both sides are making offers and they dont want that info disclosed to competitors.

The problem is that most city council's are made up of dirtbags just looking to make a buck for themselves, at least in Alabama. Maybe it's different where yall live. If so, send a postcard.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36776 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:10 pm to
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Not saying it's right, but it's pretty standard when cities are negotiating with these big companies that they will sign NDAs. Both sides are making offers and they dont want that info disclosed to competitors.


I’ve done several of these deals. While all talks are behind closed doors and the jurisdictions use all the discretion they can, I’ve never had one sign an NDA. But I’ve also never even considered it.

And those are all during the proposal page. Once ground is actually broken or an agreement is signed, it’s public information and has to be.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39844 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 3:21 pm to
People are going to start blowing these things up.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71591 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:09 pm to
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I’ve done several of these deals.

Yeah, we remember. You got your arse wrecked in that other thread when you proved you don't know shite.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36776 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:11 pm to
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Yeah, we remember. You got your arse wrecked in that other thread when you proved you don't know shite.


Just because you don’t understand who has to substantiate an exemption doesn’t mean I don’t know shite.

The department of revenues interpretation of a statute and what a statute says are not the same thing unfortunately
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85779 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:14 pm to
All the climate change bros on reddit don't understand this.



Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27499 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:14 pm to
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Where in the frick are the climate change environmentalists? This is an absurd amount of precious freshwater being wasted to collect cat videos.

Sounds like you are one. We should all be more than a little wary of the resources being diverted to this kind of thing.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27499 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:18 pm to
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Your average paper mill uses 50 million gallons of water a day

They typically locate these mills next to rivers or large lakes and they pull the water directly. They don’t typically rely on municipal drinking water systems.
Posted by speedybaw
Member since Apr 2025
358 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:19 pm to
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Where in the frick are the climate change environmentalists? This is an absurd amount of precious freshwater being wasted to collect cat videos.

Climate change is the biggest crock of shite. First it was global warming, but that was too easily to poke holes in that bullshite logic. Climate change is a gotcha moment but the climate is always be changing. But climate change ain't be like those libetards make it out to be, but with that wording they ain't technically wrong as climate is be always changing.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68983 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 4:39 pm to
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Because it's probably a foreign country.


Most major data center providers require some level of confidentiality regarding their locations due to the sensitive, and often times government classified, information they maintain on their servers.

It could be a foreign entity, but the disclosure stuff isn't a firm piece of evidence of that.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36776 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 5:44 pm to
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Most major data center providers require some level of confidentiality regarding their locations due to the sensitive


All data centers are Texas are public information in a database on the states website…. Including the ones you have to get security clearance to work at and/or enter.


All the private owned ones anyway. I suppose there could be some government ones they don’t tell us about, but I don’t know how we wouldn’t considering they’re huge and loud as hell
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
5120 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 6:08 pm to
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Public officials in Bessemer, including its mayor and city attorney, have confirmed they’ve signed non-disclosure agreements

What a bunch of bullshite!
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52859 posts
Posted on 7/22/25 at 6:13 pm to
2 million gallons a day is nothing
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