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re: Being a small town attorney
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:03 am to BigBinBR
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:03 am to BigBinBR
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Is this even a thing anymore? Everyone has a phone or can do zoom/video conferencing.
Typically I'm all about virtual meetings, but if I were to need an attorney for an important criminal matter I think I'd want to meet up in person. Just too easy for online conversations to be recorded/tracked.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:13 am to Tall Tiger
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Insurance defense has problems, but if you want to do civil litigation and be on the defense side, I don't see how you can avoid it, at least not completely.
I'm not knocking insurance defense. I don't associate insurance defense with much "Big Law". Big Law typically involves much more complicated areas like regulatory defense, antitrust defense, securities litigation, derivative defense, corporate tax, M/A, major corporate, transactional, etc. Most are associated somewhat with larger companies and the aspects of running large companies.
We don't have many major corporations in LA, so you don't see many firms servicing them. We also don't have any actual large cities.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:14 am to Contender54
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It'll be tough to maintain a practice without doing any P.I. work.
Meh. Smaller firms are crushed by the billboard guys these days. The day of small PI litigation firms in LA is coming to a close.
Self-driving cars will end it for the big boys down the road, regardless.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:33 am to SlowFlowPro
My great uncle didn’t do PI, but he also didn’t advertise I don’t think. Things must have been much different then cause he made a ton!
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:54 am to justaniceguy
Yes this all sounds good and cozy until you realize that the guys in Poydras Street skyscrapers are "small town attorneys." You may think I'm joking but I most assuredly am not.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:14 pm to justaniceguy
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:27 pm to Jim Rockford
Getting home cooked is a very real thing
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:29 pm to justaniceguy
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Also, you could probably go to any old law school? Just don’t wind up in a ton of debt.
No. And just
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:36 pm to justaniceguy
You can be a hero or a zero as a small town attorney.
You will have to practice "threshold law." Whatever walking through the threshold of the door, you take it.
You will need to know: criminal law, property law, personal injury (tort law), wills and estates, and contract law.
Network with the large personal injury firms in your state and other big city firms so you can be hired a local counsel in our Parish or County.
Be active in your community and church for the referrals and business.
When someone's family member is injured by that log truck / 18 wheeler, you better get the call vs them calling an billboard attorney. You can work it yourself or refer it to a bigger firm for a quick big referral fee.
Being a small town attorney can be a great living and a way to help a community.
You will have to practice "threshold law." Whatever walking through the threshold of the door, you take it.
You will need to know: criminal law, property law, personal injury (tort law), wills and estates, and contract law.
Network with the large personal injury firms in your state and other big city firms so you can be hired a local counsel in our Parish or County.
Be active in your community and church for the referrals and business.
When someone's family member is injured by that log truck / 18 wheeler, you better get the call vs them calling an billboard attorney. You can work it yourself or refer it to a bigger firm for a quick big referral fee.
Being a small town attorney can be a great living and a way to help a community.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:46 pm to dalefla
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Problem is most judges were former lawyers.
Wait, so you don't think Judges should hold a law degree or law license? That is like saying airplane pilots shouldn't hold a pilot's license...
Frankly, most Judges go to law school then straight the DA's office, then to the bench. This is without ever being in private practice and understand what it is like to run a law firm or deal with clients.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:56 pm to BassMaster318
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Unless you work big law, I have never understood why one would be an attorney. Make partner in 9 years and 1 million a year, or make shite money, with the stress, and try to get any client you can...
That's a terrible quality of life. Most big firm partners don't make 1 million a year. A minority of them, sure. But a big law firm with 150 partners isn't paying all 150 partners 1 million. They'd be lucky if they grossed 150 million.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Self-driving cars will end it for the big boys down the road, regardless.
I think we're 40 years away from that reality, though. Modern safety features in cars haven't taken the wind out of their sails as much as I would have thought, so I might have to rethink the entire analysis.
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Smaller firms are crushed by the billboard guys these days.
I mean, wasn't that true as far back as the mid aughts? I remember being at meetings in a billboard firm where the consultant's report was basically, "In your markets, you have to spend at least $X or you're wasting the entire campaign."
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:50 pm to justaniceguy
Meh... It reminds me of Jake Brigance, the character from John Grisham's novel A Time To Kill and its sequels. Scraping to get by on divorces, DUI's, wills, etc. and maybe hoping for a big case that will bring some attention, but not necessarily any money....Seems like a grind to me.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:41 pm to OleVaught14
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Go in house. You have one client, get paid $150k - $400k depending on size of company and seniority level. Less money than partner, but less work and way less stressful while still making a good living.
This. Our in house council make around $275k plus 30% annual bonus and the lazy frickers outsource some duties to outside law firms as well. All of them told me they will never work at a big law firm again. Too much stress and work and no time with family.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:43 pm to justaniceguy
There will never be a shortage of lawyers. One is too many.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:02 pm to ronricks
I work with a lot of small town lawyers. Most are from the town or at least have deep connections to the area.
It definitely can be a great position to be in but as an outsider I wouldn’t necessarily describe it as low hanging fruit.
It definitely can be a great position to be in but as an outsider I wouldn’t necessarily describe it as low hanging fruit.
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