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re: Being a small town attorney

Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:03 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:03 am to
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Is this even a thing anymore? Everyone has a phone or can do zoom/video conferencing.


Typically I'm all about virtual meetings, but if I were to need an attorney for an important criminal matter I think I'd want to meet up in person. Just too easy for online conversations to be recorded/tracked.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467896 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:13 am to
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Insurance defense has problems, but if you want to do civil litigation and be on the defense side, I don't see how you can avoid it, at least not completely.

I'm not knocking insurance defense. I don't associate insurance defense with much "Big Law". Big Law typically involves much more complicated areas like regulatory defense, antitrust defense, securities litigation, derivative defense, corporate tax, M/A, major corporate, transactional, etc. Most are associated somewhat with larger companies and the aspects of running large companies.

We don't have many major corporations in LA, so you don't see many firms servicing them. We also don't have any actual large cities.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467896 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:14 am to
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It'll be tough to maintain a practice without doing any P.I. work.


Meh. Smaller firms are crushed by the billboard guys these days. The day of small PI litigation firms in LA is coming to a close.

Self-driving cars will end it for the big boys down the road, regardless.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6807 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:33 am to
My great uncle didn’t do PI, but he also didn’t advertise I don’t think. Things must have been much different then cause he made a ton!
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15344 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:54 am to
Yes this all sounds good and cozy until you realize that the guys in Poydras Street skyscrapers are "small town attorneys." You may think I'm joking but I most assuredly am not.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86131 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:27 pm to
Getting home cooked is a very real thing
Posted by UpInSmokeDownDaBayou
In the shades of gray
Member since Mar 2024
83 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Also, you could probably go to any old law school? Just don’t wind up in a ton of debt.


No. And just
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
6034 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:36 pm to
You can be a hero or a zero as a small town attorney.

You will have to practice "threshold law." Whatever walking through the threshold of the door, you take it.

You will need to know: criminal law, property law, personal injury (tort law), wills and estates, and contract law.

Network with the large personal injury firms in your state and other big city firms so you can be hired a local counsel in our Parish or County.

Be active in your community and church for the referrals and business.

When someone's family member is injured by that log truck / 18 wheeler, you better get the call vs them calling an billboard attorney. You can work it yourself or refer it to a bigger firm for a quick big referral fee.

Being a small town attorney can be a great living and a way to help a community.
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
6034 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Problem is most judges were former lawyers.


Wait, so you don't think Judges should hold a law degree or law license? That is like saying airplane pilots shouldn't hold a pilot's license...

Frankly, most Judges go to law school then straight the DA's office, then to the bench. This is without ever being in private practice and understand what it is like to run a law firm or deal with clients.
Posted by Howard Juneau
Cocodrie, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2233 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:56 pm to
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Unless you work big law, I have never understood why one would be an attorney. Make partner in 9 years and 1 million a year, or make shite money, with the stress, and try to get any client you can...


That's a terrible quality of life. Most big firm partners don't make 1 million a year. A minority of them, sure. But a big law firm with 150 partners isn't paying all 150 partners 1 million. They'd be lucky if they grossed 150 million.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94845 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:43 pm to
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Self-driving cars will end it for the big boys down the road, regardless.


I think we're 40 years away from that reality, though. Modern safety features in cars haven't taken the wind out of their sails as much as I would have thought, so I might have to rethink the entire analysis.

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Smaller firms are crushed by the billboard guys these days.


I mean, wasn't that true as far back as the mid aughts? I remember being at meetings in a billboard firm where the consultant's report was basically, "In your markets, you have to spend at least $X or you're wasting the entire campaign."

Posted by Boondock Saint
The Boondocks
Member since Oct 2005
4829 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:50 pm to
Meh... It reminds me of Jake Brigance, the character from John Grisham's novel A Time To Kill and its sequels. Scraping to get by on divorces, DUI's, wills, etc. and maybe hoping for a big case that will bring some attention, but not necessarily any money....Seems like a grind to me.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11122 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:41 pm to
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Go in house. You have one client, get paid $150k - $400k depending on size of company and seniority level. Less money than partner, but less work and way less stressful while still making a good living.


This. Our in house council make around $275k plus 30% annual bonus and the lazy frickers outsource some duties to outside law firms as well. All of them told me they will never work at a big law firm again. Too much stress and work and no time with family.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23238 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:43 pm to

There will never be a shortage of lawyers. One is too many.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33391 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7812 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 10:02 pm to
I work with a lot of small town lawyers. Most are from the town or at least have deep connections to the area.

It definitely can be a great position to be in but as an outsider I wouldn’t necessarily describe it as low hanging fruit.
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