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Beijing Knows It's Losing Battle of Hong Kong

Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:16 pm
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The regime is so alarmed that it is even disrupting private meetings in Europe

Almost exactly a year ago, the Holy See and the Chinese government signed an agreement on the appointment of bishops designed to “normalise” relations and – at least in the mind of the Vatican – enhance protection for China’s 10 million Catholics. A year on, where are we?

Well, there has been no tangible sign of improvement in religious freedom in China. Christians – both Catholic and Protestant – continue to face what most analysts regard as the most severe crackdown since the Cultural Revolution. Churches are still being closed or destroyed, clergy jailed and crosses torn down. Those below the age of 18 are prohibited from worshipping and surveillance cameras mounted at the altar record every worshipper with facial recognition technology.

China’s Muslims, particularly the Uighurs in Xinjiang, are facing a cultural, if not yet physical, genocide. At least one million (and perhaps as many as three million) are reportedly being held in internment camps, some subjected to torture and slave labour.

China’s state media have publicly declared that the goal in regard to the Uighurs is to “break their lineage, break their roots, break their connections and break their origins”. As the Washington Post put it, “it’s hard to read that as anything other than a declaration of genocidal intent.”

The persecution of Tibetans and Falun Gong practitioners continues, and earlier this year an independent tribunal, chaired by Sir Geoffrey Nice QC, concluded that the Chinese state has been forcibly extracting human organs from prisoners of conscience for the transplant industry, that it amounts to a crime against humanity and that anyone engaging with the Chinese state should do so in the knowledge that they are “interacting with a criminal state”.

This is the very same state that Bishop Marcelo Sánchez Sorondo, chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, has described as the best example in the world today of Catholic social teaching. I am only a six-year-old Catholic and so I hesitate to question the judgment of an eminent bishop. But when I was exploring the Catholic faith before entering the Church I read the Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church from start to finish, and I cannot see anything in Xi Jinping’s China that matches in any way the Church’s social teaching. One wonders what the courageous Cardinal Ignatius Kung Pin-Mei, who was made a cardinal by Pope St John Paul II in pectore (in secret), would have made of this, having spent 30 years in Chinese prisons because of his refusal to accept the Communist Party’s control of the Church.

And then on top of all this, there is the continuing crisis in Hong Kong. It did not come out of nowhere. For at least the past five years, Hong Kong’s freedoms, autonomy and rule of law have come under increasing pressure. We have seen promises of universal suffrage – which are there in black and white in the region’s Basic Law – denied. Pro-democracy legislators and candidates have been disqualified, and pro-democracy protesters jailed. Booksellers publishing titles critical of Beijing’s leaders have been abducted. Academic and press freedoms have been threatened. A law has been proposed to criminalise vaguely defined “insults” to the Communist Party’s national anthem. The Financial Times’s Asia news editor has been expelled.

Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:17 pm to
Holy cow
Posted by BurningHeart
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:18 pm to
Holy cow
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:20 pm to
Coly How
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:21 pm to
yes, I know. Private meetings in Europe are crucial to the fate of this world.
























Posted by georgia
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:26 pm to
Wouldn’t it be awesome if we had a political board around here for topics like this?
You should head on over to the help board and put that in Chicken’s suggestion box!
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:27 pm to
Unfortunately I disagree. It’s a waiting game for Beijing, eventually the protests will lose steam. They’ve learned they have to be smarter about implementing their policies and it’ll have to be sneakier to get them through, but eventually they will win. It’s guaranteed by 2047 but probably much sooner.

Xi May become rash and impatient though and make poor decisions that fuels the protest again. My opinion is this doesn’t end in some giant revolutionary battle, but rather just whimpers out over time unfortunately
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
1441 posts
Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:28 pm to
Hmmm, which dirtbags should I hate the most. Thats a tough one.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 8:37 pm to
No one cared when it was just the muslims. Now that Christians are being targeted too I expect outrage.
Posted by sodcutterjones
Member since May 2018
1241 posts
Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:12 pm to
I don’t know the solution, but we as policemen of the world, rescue persecuted Across the world but put blinders on when it comes to China. Maybe we should stop being the policemen of the world and let Europe and their do gooders handle this one.
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:13 pm to
Damn
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:13 pm to
China ain’t loosing anything they don’t want to lose outside of a conflict with the USA.
Posted by BurningHeart
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/14/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:33 pm to
China is likely worse than Nazi Germany was as far as human rights go. We don’t know for sure because they won’t let it out. Trump breaking their economy may bring some of these abuses to light.

China is today’s evil empire.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:37 pm to
You will get downvotes but China doesn’t report what it doesn’t want to report: kidnappings, murders, etc. It’s almost impossible to gauge their abuses bc they alone control the data and have zero transparency.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

China’s Muslims, particularly the Uighurs in Xinjiang, are facing a cultural, if not yet physical, genocide. At least one million (and perhaps as many as three million) are reportedly being held in internment camps, some subjected to torture and slave labour.

China’s state media have publicly declared that the goal in regard to the Uighurs is to “break their lineage, break their roots, break their connections and break their origins”. As the Washington Post put it, “it’s hard to read that as anything other than a declaration of genocidal intent


Not really bothered by this.
This post was edited on 9/14/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 9:52 pm to
What kind of a-hole would downvote your post? Betas no doubt.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/14/19 at 10:26 pm to
Any candidate declaring anyone other than China as our greatest geopolitical foe is unfit to be president as far as I’m concerned.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 9/14/19 at 10:39 pm to
Holy cow
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