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re: Beautiful Tennessee girl killed by dogs

Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:01 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:01 am to
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If you consider the fact that pit bulls are multiple breeds (3 or more depending on who you ask), its disingenuous/improper group multiple breeds to compare to single breed types
What are those other breeds?

So we can add them to the list of dogs we want eradicated along with pits.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:09 am to
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Pit bull owners don't want to admit that their dogs kill more than any other breed. It's so weird.


If you refuse to admit that your dog is any more dangerous than any other dog, then you can perpetuate the charade of being incredulous when your dog does something vicious. You can play the persecution victim for your dog and it's breed, rather than take responsibility for the inherent dangers that you subject others to, by owning such an animal.

Like I said, I owned one. I loved that dog, and held him in my arms as he was put to sleep at 12 years old. But the potential that he possessed was incredible, and put those around him at additional risk. Having a bully dog just isn't worth that risk.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157892 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:11 am to
Their strength is the dangerous part. No one cares if a toy poodle snaps.

Why can't some pit owners just be honest?

It's weird.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:22 am to
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What are those other breeds? So we can add them to the list of dogs we want eradicated along with pits.


Obviously, you have to get a proclamation from the resident authority, but for most folks the American Staffordshire Terrier is a pit. As is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:43 am to
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Your evidence that pitbulls are a dangerous breed is nothing more than anecdotal. Hate it for you, but it's the truth.


I’ve repaired ~120 patients dog bites in my career so far. At least 75% were from a pit bull. And that’s a conservative estimate.

Do you know what they call a collection of “anecdotal experiences” with a common factor?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91527 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 11:53 am to
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Obviously, you have to get a proclamation from the resident authority, but for most folks the American Staffordshire Terrier is a pit. As is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
Legitimately thanks for the answer

I’m trying to figure out just how hard this guy is playing the semantics card.

I’m also truly fine with not calling some of these things pits. I just need to know what to call them moving forward so try hards like this guy can’t win the argument with his semantics.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5054 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 12:59 pm to
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for 82 of those patients, the breed of dog involved was recorded (29 were injured by pit bulls).


Who identified the breed of dog involved?






And here, so you won't lose any sleep:
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:02 pm to
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I’m trying to figure out just how hard this guy is playing the semantics card.


I figured that, but dude is playing it to the hilt. My dog was a 115 pound mutt, but I guarantee if he got ahold of Mr. Expert, he would have had no trouble identifying him as a pit! There's a Mexican dude walking around in New Mexico with no index finger on his left hand that will testify.

Or maybe I could show him some pictures of the cyclone fence he chewed through, or his galvanized teeth from doing it, trying to get at some thugs throwing shite at him. Ever see a mutt chew a hole through a chain link fence?
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53518 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:31 pm to
Have an upvote
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150146 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:32 pm to
What an unimaginably horrible way to die. Jesus
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53518 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:37 pm to
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the two pits I grew up with were very smart and loyal and never showed an ounce of aggression. Its the owner, not the dog.


My girl is unpredictable. She wants to kill some people on sight.

She’s been treated like a human child since six weeks old.

She has some predisposition to attack humans and other dogs.

It’s a case by case thing.

I don’t discipline her for wanting to attack others.

I want her to keep her mean steak when it comes to her instincts and protecting my house.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:42 pm to
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Mean dogs can be created from any breed. Obviously pit bulls are prone to it by genetics, but mastiffs, labs, and rotties are gentle animals if assholes don't raise them.



Don't spoil the OT circle jerk.
Posted by FeauxPaw
BRuh
Member since Sep 2015
1147 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 1:44 pm to
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Who identified the breed of dog involved?


The authors of the study themselves did. Bini JK, et al.
They probably got it from police records.


quote:




This is some wine-aunt tier Facebook shyt. Pathetic
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60684 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 2:07 pm to
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wine-aunt

I love that this is catching on
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 4:09 pm to
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My dog was a 115 pound mutt, but I guarantee if he got ahold of Mr. Expert, he would have had no trouble identifying him as a pit!


No expert would categorize a 115 lb dog as a pit bull. That would be about as realistic as having a son that is 10 ft tall. 0 semantics. thats just the fact of the matter.
This post was edited on 9/6/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 4:25 pm to
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Obviously, you have to get a proclamation from the resident authority, but for most folks the American Staffordshire Terrier is a pit. As is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
Legitimately thanks for the answer

I’m trying to figure out just how hard this guy is playing the semantics card.

I’m also truly fine with not calling some of these things pits. I just need to know what to call them moving forward so try hards like this guy can’t win the argument with his semantics.



what semantics do you think im using? lmao.
The problem is pit bull is a group of like 6 breeds. It makes no sense to compare stats of 6 breeds grouped as 1, to compare to single breed.

i don't need semantics to win the argument. We already had a poster give 3 peer reviewed scientific studies that conclude focus on breed is an irrelevent data point. The argument is already over.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 4:30 pm to
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Obviously, you have to get a proclamation from the resident authority, but for most folks the American Staffordshire Terrier is a pit. As is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.



Yes these are 2 breeds that fall into the pit bull umbrella. however they only get to 65ish pounds top range for males. the dog you claim to be a pit bull is nearly TWICE the top weight for pit bulls lmao with BOTH parents outside the pitbull weight range. The breeds you listed are pits, but the dogs you owned just were not. I bet your son is 10 ft tall too. maybe youll tell me about your 90 lb house cat next, or your size 35 shoe.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84435 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 4:30 pm to
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but mastiffs, labs, and rotties are gentle animals if assholes don't raise them.


Oh ffs
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7790 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 7:41 pm to
Have a neighbor, pretty girl (no pics) who has a pit bull. It seems like a docile dog but if that dog ever turned on her, she would not have a chance to defend herself.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 9/6/19 at 8:27 pm to
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Yes these are 2 breeds that fall into the pit bull umbrella. however they only get to 65ish pounds top range for males.


Dude. You are really stuck on this. The weights you keep throwing around are breed standards. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible or even unusual for dogs of that breed to weigh more or less than that standard. The standard for a male Amstaff is up to 80 pounds. Feel free to continue with your bullshite, but the non-retarded recognize that you’re picking at nits.
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