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BBC: "MH17 missile 'came from Russia', Dutch-led investigators say"

Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:39 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:39 am
And for my next thread today...

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"Based on the criminal investigation, we have concluded that flight MH17 was downed by a Buk missile of the series 9M83 that came from the territory of the Russian Federation," chief Dutch police investigator Wilbert Paulissen said.

The missile launcher was later taken back to Russia, he said.

An inquiry by the Dutch Safety Board last year found that a Russian-made Buk missile hit the plane but did not say where it was fired from.

The JIT investigation's findings are meant to prepare the ground for a criminal trial but suspects will not be named.


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Prosecutors played recordings from intercepted phone calls during their news conference.

They said witnesses reported seeing the missile launcher move from Russia into Ukraine and presented pictures and videos.

The launch site was pinpointed by "many witnesses", prosecutors said.

Relatives were briefed before the JIT released their preliminary findings.

"They told us how the Buk was transported [and] how they came to that evidence from phone taps, photo, film material, video," Robby Oehler, whose niece was killed in the crash, told the BBC.


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Separatist rebels have denied they were involved.





This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:40 am to
Well, don't mess with Putin.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:41 am to
I wonder if there was a target on that plane that the Russians wanted dead.

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126854 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Well, don't mess with Putin.


stfu

How in the world did they mess with that POS?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4949 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:52 am to
I was thinking the same thing.. makes you wonder about the other Malaysian flight that went missing over the ocean now too.
Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
5538 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:56 am to
You so mad. Hahaha
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13527 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:59 am to
Still boggles the mind how they didn't think to consider that the flight path was taking them right over an active warzone.
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Well, don't mess with Putin.

You are such a cocksucker. There were 298 innocent people on that plane. 80 of them children.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:02 am
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:06 am to
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You are such a cocksucker. There were 298 innocent people on that plane. 80 of them children.


Seriously. frick Putin and frick Trump for sucking Putin's dick.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:13 am
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:21 am to
Trump's potna
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17230 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:23 am to
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Seriously. frick Putin and frick Trump for sucking Putin's dick


Are you suggesting Putin ordered the shoot down of a civilian airliner? Because there is literally not a shred of evidence that would support that.

And Trump is "sucking Putin's dick" for not saber rattling at a nuclear armed country that shares common enemies with the United States? Amazing the impact a simple media narrative repeated over and over again can have.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15292 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:25 am to
Putin is allowed to get away with shite, because we have a Boob in charge. Putin has ZERO respect for the Boob and plays him like a fiddle. Putin used and abused HIllary for fun. What do you think he'll do when her dumb arse is President.


Were fricked


And i'm no Trump voter or fan, he's a clown as well.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Well, don't mess with Putin.


The people of Ukraine didn't mess with Putin and he still invaded and illegally annexed Ukrainian sovereign territory.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:37 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:30 am to
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Are you suggesting Putin ordered the shoot down of a civilian airliner?


No, but Putin is behind the separatists in Ukraine, behind the supplying of these people with Russian men and Russian equipment, and he did illegally annex Crimea. So he started the events that eventually led to the shoot down of a civilian airliner.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:30 am to
No, but I am suggesting the Putin was the architect of a plan to invade and annex a sovereign nation. That plan led to the loss of 280+ innocent lives. Don't forget about the innocent Ukrainian lives that have been lost as well.

This is the guy that Trump said was a good strong leader. Amazing the impact a delusional buffoon from NY can have on people.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:36 am
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17230 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:37 am to
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 So he started the events that eventually led to the shoot down of a civilian airliner.



You understand the dubious nature of this rationale, no? This line of thinking can be used to essentially blame any leader or nation for anything by a timeline of events. It's not logically sound.

The principal point is, the shoot down was most certainly an error due to fog of war carried out by pro-Russian rebels supplied with Russian tech. The shoot down was a major international disaster for Russia and the rebels, not some contrived murder of innocents on an airliner.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77959 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:40 am to
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No, but Putin is behind the separatists in Ukraine, behind the supplying of these people with Russian men and Russian equipment, and he did illegally annex Crimea. So he started the events that eventually led to the shoot down of a civilian airliner.
And we are behind the separatists in Syria, resulting in the indirect or possibly even direct support of ISIS.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:43 am to
And our leaders aren't beyond reproach for that. But go ahead and change the subject in an effort to defend Putin because your God emperor told you to.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56107 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:45 am to
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You are such a cocksucker. There were 298 innocent people on that plane. 80 of them children.


You ready to go kill us some Russians for Hillary, baw?



Come on, seriously. Isn't it logical to conclude that Putin hit the ceiling with anger when he found out that his special forces idiots shot down a passenger liner? I say it is. Russia's and Putin's reputations are much worse because of the incident but they gained no military advantage from the incident.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:53 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77959 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:46 am to
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And our leaders aren't beyond reproach for that.


Like HRC isn't beyond reproach? Or Comey isn't beyond reproach?

Quit deluding yourself.

Putin is a POS, but you and other Democrats have nothing to stand on. Same for Bush and Republicans.

Bunch of hypocrites.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:48 am
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