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re: Baffled as to how single people afford houses currently

Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:22 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35069 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:22 am to
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If the average person is making 70k, that's 5,800 per month which means even at a high credit score allowing 45% DTI the most they could get a loan for is a 2,600 payment, and that's not even counting the dings for student loans or car payments or credit cards.


That’s the average household. Not the avg person…..
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5075 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:26 am to
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I do think the free market will lead to people moving to rural oasis'.


This is what I plan on doing. I work remotely and want to get out to about 20 acres of land with some animals and some crops and spend a few years slowly building up enough of a farm business and nest egg to call it a career.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5463 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:27 am to
If I worked remotely I would already be out of the city
Posted by tap011
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2013
771 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:27 am to
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Try single income family household. It's a mafukka out here


Yeah, my wife keeps saying she wants to be a stay at home mom and this is exactly why I keep saying no
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19508 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:28 am to
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The ONLY time you raise rates is to slow down a HOT and quickly growing economy.


Seems like we've had multiple opportunies to raise them post-2008 housing crash and nobody did it then, either.

So - who dropped the ball, perfesser?
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40589 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:52 am to
I bought and lived in a cheap condo from May 2017- June 2023, much better financially than renting an apartment, got a decent chunk of cash at sale. And I personally love not having to worry about shite like landscaping.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 10:54 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16604 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:56 am to
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how single people afford houses currently



I earn money, then spend less than I make.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6044 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:26 am to
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Wives must work to make enough money to afford the absurd standard of living considered to be "basic" these days.



Maybe they actually like having a career.

I do agree with the expectations part, though. What people expect in a "starter" home is now what used to be a super nice "forever" home. Everyone I grew up with was buying 3/2 or 3/1.5 1800 sf homes that were 20 years old in 1985. Now people act like that's a shack.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17718 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:27 am to
Buy a plane and commute it’s cheaper
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13590 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:28 am to
My daughter lived on campus (scholarship) for college, then she moved back home with us for 18 months while she was working full time in her field and saved her money. She had saved about 28% for a down payment. Her mortgage is at 3.25%. Got it right before rates exploded.

Bought a great 1500sf house well below her budget.

She now has a friend staying there who is paying rent. Instead of her paying it off in 30 years she is looking at about 15 right now. It’s in a great location and she can easily rent it out when she gets married.

She is very good with her money and doesn’t buy stuff she can do without.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6044 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:35 am to
quote:

I do think the free market will lead to people moving to rural oasis'.

This is what I plan on doing. I work remotely and want to get out to about 20 acres of land with some animals and some crops and spend a few years slowly building up enough of a farm business and nest egg to call it a career.


Have you ever lived in a really rural area with your children?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71201 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:42 am to
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Buy a condo or townhome instead of a house


Then you have HOA fees.

Better off living further out where land isn't as scarce.
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5075 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:43 am to
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Have you ever lived in a really rural area with your children?


No kids here. Considerations for me to be mindful of?
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48697 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:47 am to
Pediatricians and emergency rooms are the big ones for me.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18015 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:48 am to
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No kids here. Considerations for me to be mindful of?


You are their friends.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10053 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:25 pm to
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Not to hijack the thread about housing, but Our media, government, and to an extent parents of Gen Zers have been paying/encouraging these kids to not work for a long time.

Even if you believed that we have this mass of able-bodied labor that isn’t working, and I don’t think we do, this isn’t happening in Texas. Texas is a booming economy and there is no free lunch. This place has a social safety net that lags most places.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34007 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:27 pm to
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I do well and am single and I sometimes wonder how the frick I would ever make it if I had to support another person, let alone multiple.


This goes through my head every day. It definitely affects who I date as I cannot imagine downgrading my lifestyle to support them
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18428 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Accountant 6 years out of school with a CPA at a decent sized firm can be pulling 120-140k. With no dependents and prioritizing living in a metro area with a lot to do, that might be feasible.


Yes, that’s all accurate. But, how many jobs exist that pay that much vs how many houses that cost that much?

Society doesn’t need everyone to be a CPA, engineer, lawyer, or doctor.
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
2760 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:32 pm to
Well it's a two fold problem. If only interest rates were high and a 150k home wasn't priced at 300k, then I'd buy at a higher rate and refi later. However, getting a mortgage on an inflated home means no one would refi later once the value drops without me covering the difference.

So it makes you wonder how many will default when the housing market inevitably corrects. Which is why I'll pay my low rent until the housing values correct.
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2506 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:33 pm to
Built a house in 1997, paid 75,000 for it.
Had 8% int rate
Made 24,000 income per year at the time
Unfortunately, housing cost for new homes are out of this world.
Build a shop and buy the land
Finish the inside yourself
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