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re: Baffled as to how single people afford houses currently
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:22 am to Thundercles
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:22 am to Thundercles
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If the average person is making 70k, that's 5,800 per month which means even at a high credit score allowing 45% DTI the most they could get a loan for is a 2,600 payment, and that's not even counting the dings for student loans or car payments or credit cards.
That’s the average household. Not the avg person…..
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:26 am to CatfishJohn
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I do think the free market will lead to people moving to rural oasis'.
This is what I plan on doing. I work remotely and want to get out to about 20 acres of land with some animals and some crops and spend a few years slowly building up enough of a farm business and nest egg to call it a career.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:27 am to Thundercles
If I worked remotely I would already be out of the city
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:27 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Try single income family household. It's a mafukka out here
Yeah, my wife keeps saying she wants to be a stay at home mom and this is exactly why I keep saying no
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:28 am to Broke
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The ONLY time you raise rates is to slow down a HOT and quickly growing economy.
Seems like we've had multiple opportunies to raise them post-2008 housing crash and nobody did it then, either.
So - who dropped the ball, perfesser?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:52 am to sidewalkside
I bought and lived in a cheap condo from May 2017- June 2023, much better financially than renting an apartment, got a decent chunk of cash at sale. And I personally love not having to worry about shite like landscaping.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 10:54 am
Posted on 10/12/23 at 10:56 am to Thundercles
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how single people afford houses currently
I earn money, then spend less than I make.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:26 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Wives must work to make enough money to afford the absurd standard of living considered to be "basic" these days.
Maybe they actually like having a career.
I do agree with the expectations part, though. What people expect in a "starter" home is now what used to be a super nice "forever" home. Everyone I grew up with was buying 3/2 or 3/1.5 1800 sf homes that were 20 years old in 1985. Now people act like that's a shack.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:27 am to Thundercles
Buy a plane and commute it’s cheaper
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:28 am to Thundercles
My daughter lived on campus (scholarship) for college, then she moved back home with us for 18 months while she was working full time in her field and saved her money. She had saved about 28% for a down payment. Her mortgage is at 3.25%. Got it right before rates exploded.
Bought a great 1500sf house well below her budget.
She now has a friend staying there who is paying rent. Instead of her paying it off in 30 years she is looking at about 15 right now. It’s in a great location and she can easily rent it out when she gets married.
She is very good with her money and doesn’t buy stuff she can do without.
Bought a great 1500sf house well below her budget.
She now has a friend staying there who is paying rent. Instead of her paying it off in 30 years she is looking at about 15 right now. It’s in a great location and she can easily rent it out when she gets married.
She is very good with her money and doesn’t buy stuff she can do without.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:35 am to Thundercles
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I do think the free market will lead to people moving to rural oasis'.
This is what I plan on doing. I work remotely and want to get out to about 20 acres of land with some animals and some crops and spend a few years slowly building up enough of a farm business and nest egg to call it a career.
Have you ever lived in a really rural area with your children?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:42 am to WG_Dawg
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Buy a condo or townhome instead of a house
Then you have HOA fees.
Better off living further out where land isn't as scarce.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:43 am to LaLadyinTx
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Have you ever lived in a really rural area with your children?
No kids here. Considerations for me to be mindful of?
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:47 am to Thundercles
Pediatricians and emergency rooms are the big ones for me.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 11:48 am to Thundercles
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No kids here. Considerations for me to be mindful of?
You are their friends.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:25 pm to sodcutterjones
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Not to hijack the thread about housing, but Our media, government, and to an extent parents of Gen Zers have been paying/encouraging these kids to not work for a long time.
Even if you believed that we have this mass of able-bodied labor that isn’t working, and I don’t think we do, this isn’t happening in Texas. Texas is a booming economy and there is no free lunch. This place has a social safety net that lags most places.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:27 pm to Thundercles
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I do well and am single and I sometimes wonder how the frick I would ever make it if I had to support another person, let alone multiple.
This goes through my head every day. It definitely affects who I date as I cannot imagine downgrading my lifestyle to support them
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:31 pm to Odysseus32
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Accountant 6 years out of school with a CPA at a decent sized firm can be pulling 120-140k. With no dependents and prioritizing living in a metro area with a lot to do, that might be feasible.
Yes, that’s all accurate. But, how many jobs exist that pay that much vs how many houses that cost that much?
Society doesn’t need everyone to be a CPA, engineer, lawyer, or doctor.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:32 pm to Thundercles
Well it's a two fold problem. If only interest rates were high and a 150k home wasn't priced at 300k, then I'd buy at a higher rate and refi later. However, getting a mortgage on an inflated home means no one would refi later once the value drops without me covering the difference.
So it makes you wonder how many will default when the housing market inevitably corrects. Which is why I'll pay my low rent until the housing values correct.
So it makes you wonder how many will default when the housing market inevitably corrects. Which is why I'll pay my low rent until the housing values correct.
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:33 pm to Thundercles
Built a house in 1997, paid 75,000 for it.
Had 8% int rate
Made 24,000 income per year at the time
Unfortunately, housing cost for new homes are out of this world.
Build a shop and buy the land
Finish the inside yourself
Had 8% int rate
Made 24,000 income per year at the time
Unfortunately, housing cost for new homes are out of this world.
Build a shop and buy the land
Finish the inside yourself
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