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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:38 am
Posted by LSUGRAD2008
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:38 am
What is the best background check service anyone has used?
Posted by TDcline
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:40 am to
Unless it’s a federal department, police department, or military then most private sector background checks are going to go through the same process. They’ll google names in a number of databases and make some phone calls.

The most in depth I’ve ever heard of is for the US Secret Service.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:40 am to
The FBI.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:42 am to
Whatever background service the army uses is legit. When my friend became an army ranger they tracked me down to ask me about his character growing up. That’s probably top of the line background check and more than you need though.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:45 am to
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What is the best background check service anyone has used?


The US Military’s for a high clearance. They spent around two months digging through my background interviewing neighbors and people who knew me. Two agents for two months on almost a daily basis.

My entire home town (well those who knew me) thought I was being suspected of some serious crime. The calls my mom got were hilarious.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:47 am to
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Whatever background service the army uses is legit


I used to do background checks for the Army and can attest to its thoroughness. We would almost always find out things you were trying to keep from us.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:48 am to
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The FBI

Until they write a dossier on your arse
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:50 am to
My Wife + Google = Extremely thorough background check, down to business records, properties owned, crimes committed, previous marriages, and more.
Posted by HogBalls
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:57 am to
DISA
Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:59 am to
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We would almost always find out things you were trying to keep from us.



Like what?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19974 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:31 am to
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When my friend became an army ranger they tracked me down to ask me about his character growing up.


He put your arse on the SF86 and didn't tell you.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:32 am to
OPM
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19974 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:39 am to
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Two agents for two months on almost a daily basis.



It costs under $1000 to do that background check. You had one or two agents from a nearby office and they maybe spent a few hours total just hitting a few of those you had as references. I've gone through the process twice (non-TS-SCI lasts 10 years) and it's not a big deal, the worst is filling out the post-9/11 SF86.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:01 am to
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It costs under $1000 to do that background check. You had one or two agents from a nearby office and they maybe spent a few hours total just hitting a few of those you had as references. I've gone through the process twice (non-TS-SCI lasts 10 years) and it's not a big deal, the worst is filling out the post-9/11 SF86.



Interesting opinion but wrong.

There were more than 20 people interviewed and those are known first degree contacts (people I listed directly). Those 20 were asked for other to interview. Yes I realize the agents were out of the nearest field office but the process was not nearly as high level as you think it was.

There are acronyms way above the ones you listed and when your talking about the lates 80s and developing some of the cryptology used to fend off the Soviets prying eyes it gets extremely stringent.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:11 am to
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What is the best background check service anyone has used?


We use CareerBuilder for our employment screening - no complaints.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:39 am to
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There are acronyms way above the ones you listed


"Way" above Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmented Intelligence (TS-SCI)?

Not really.

quote:

when your talking about the lates 80s and developing some of the cryptology used to fend off the Soviets prying eyes it gets extremely stringent


Still not "above" TS-SCI.

There is a lot of misinformation/poorly understood information out there about clearances versus background checks (they are related, but not the same thing), "access", classified levels, etc.

So - bottom line up front - there are exactly three security clearance levels - confidential (which is almost irrelevant, as virtually no one has a "confidential" security clearance, absent very unusual circumstances), secret and top secret.

Now, merely holding one of those clearance levels does not mean you get to see/read/listen to all of that. You need 2 things for access: clearance (minimum required for the information) AND "need to know." If you have those things, you are then "read on" to the information (meaning, you are placed on a roster of those with access, and the start date). When you no longer need access, you are "read off" (taken off the list and the date is recorded).

There are "code word" or what have you that are further compartmented but virtually all of them would be available to someone holding a TS-SCI clearance. That is the "SCI" portion. A "plain" TS is essentially worthless (or worth little to nothing more than Secret) in the modern classified information environment. I suppose it would have some trace value if you worked solely and exclusively in a coalition environment, but even then I would consider it more of a burden than an asset.


My bona fides are that I held a TS-SCI clearance for almost 30 years.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:41 am to
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What is the best background check service anyone has used?

Turning 18 and forgetting to bring my license to the airport
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66883 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:51 am to
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The FBI.

yep
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:02 pm to
Chick Fil A seems to do a good job.

Mr Cathy joked his background check for franchisee was tougher than FBI.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2509 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Like what?


I'll give you an example of a situation that I came across. This was a lifetime ago so I don't recall everything exactly. It was my job to do interviews of soldiers that were trying to obtain a security/top secret clearance. This would involve us having to interview the soldier, or some of the people they listed that knew them well.

That's where we would often uncover things they were trying to hide. The people they listed would always say glowing things about the individual. During our interviews we would always ask for someone else that may have known them well. That's where the good stuff came from. That person would sometimes give a name of someone that the individual needing the clearance would not list. We'd reach out to that person and that person would not always have the best thing to say.
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