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re: “Baby it’s cold outside” is jamming of the radio...someone tell me the controversy of the
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:09 pm to WildcatMike
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:09 pm to WildcatMike
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Baby It's Cold Outside is not about rape. It is a song between two flirtatious people who very much want to spend the night snuggled up in bed together, but who need an excuse to do so because it would be unseemly for the woman to say she wants to have sex. So the guy is giving her all sorts of excuses, and she's pretending like it's all innocent and she just had to stay the night. They are about to go upstairs and have very fun sexytimes. There will be no rape.
However, Baby It's Cold Outside is one of the best illustrations of "rape culture" that pop culture has produced. The woman in the song wants to have sex, but she can't say she wants that. She is forced to resort to double entendres and false protests, which the man knows to ignore and push past, because she really does want to stay. But what if she didn't want to stay? She has no clear, unambiguous way to say no, because she's not allowed to say yes. Any protest will be ignored, because women are supposed to say no, she doesn't actually mean it. That's how we get rape culture in the first place, by normalizing the idea that men need to convince women to have sex. The woman in the song can't say no. Her 'no' could mean anything, because she can't say yes.
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:11 pm to LouisianaLady
No means no.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:17 pm to tilco
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I don’t think it offends most people but it’s basically about trillhog
There is absolutely nothing rapey about the song.
It’s about consensual conviviality in defiance of cultural norms veiled through defense mechanisms,
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:18 pm to LouisianaLady
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However, Baby It's Cold Outside is one of the best illustrations of "rape culture" that pop culture has produced. The woman in the song wants to have sex, but she can't say she wants that. She is forced to resort to double entendres and false protests, which the man knows to ignore and push past, because she really does want to stay. But what if she didn't want to stay? She has no clear, unambiguous way to say no, because she's not allowed to say yes. Any protest will be ignored, because women are supposed to say no, she doesn't actually mean it. That's how we get rape culture in the first place, by normalizing the idea that men need to convince women to have sex. The woman in the song can't say no. Her 'no' could mean anything, because she can't say yes.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:19 pm to WildcatMike
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no, no its not. Pearl Jam, Skynyrd, ACDC, Metallica, Ozzy may be "jamming" on the radio.
But in no one's most alcohol induced state is "Baby its cold outside" jamming on anything.
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Baby it’s cold outside” is jamming of the radio
no, no its not. Pearl Jam, Skynyrd, ACDC, Metallica, Ozzy may be "jamming" on the radio.
But in no one's most alcohol induced state is "Baby its cold outside" jamming on anything.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:21 pm to tilco
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I don’t think it offends most people
In reality, it offends absolutely no one.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:22 pm to Doormat
"Baby it's cold outside, but it's warm inside you"
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:27 pm to BugAC
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take the bait. How?
He is trying everything to get a woman to stay the night. Something any man with a set of balls has tried. Within reason.
Lyrically it’s pretty mild compared to Rod Stewart “Tonight’s the Night”. Keep the lyrics and replace rod with a Phil/Pantera style vocal? Sounds very different. In a Kiss The Girls movie sort of way.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:29 pm to WildcatMike
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someone tell me the controversy
Not sure. It's a great lesson about perseverance.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 12:56 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I find it remarkable people "cant stand the though of this song being played", but mention nothing of songs that talk about "fricking that ho bitch in her arse while I roll a fatty my n****" 
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:00 pm to WildcatMike
I think it offends millennials
Posted on 12/6/19 at 1:59 pm to WildcatMike
The song was written in 1944 by Frank Loesser, he and his wife would sing it to entertain guests. She didn't think it was "rapey", she considered it "their song". So much so that she was furious when he sold the song to MGM. Although many women like to flirt and be chased, neo-liberal females have zero tolerance for any female that is physically attractive or leverages her sexuality, or any man that notices it. While I understand their frustration because females have certainly faced major struggles through the years with disrespect and inequality, it's disingenuous to equate a song about a married couple flirting with each other to a woman being brutally raped. The main stickler in the song is when she says "what's in this drink?". Critics of the song equate that to Bill Cosby sneaking a roofie in a glass of wine of one his victims. In 1944, "what's in this drink?" was a common saying when you felt yourself getting buzzed or drunk after having a few drinks. Which goes back to the flirtatious conversation between a consenting man and woman -- not rape.
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