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re: AWD vs FWD vehicles
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:33 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:33 am to Chad504boy
Do your research on how the AWD system functions. Most are FWD bias.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:40 am to Chad504boy
I've never had any issues in the snow with a FWD vehicle. The right tires for conditions and proper driving skills will get you through 99% of the time.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:41 am to TigersnJeeps
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always wondered how our ancestors survived winters in RWD and bias ply tires...
Well i have pictures of my grandfather always on horses. So im going to say they used horses.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:43 am to Saint Alfonzo
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I've never had any issues in the snow with a FWD vehicle.
I did 3-4 times a year, that was enough. Steep hillside.
Even studded tires wouldn't grab when the road had more than a couple inches of snow.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I did 3-4 times a year, that was enough. Steep hillside.
Even studded tires wouldn't grab when the road had more than a couple inches of snow.
Hills are a different story. There a few hills in Syracuse I would never attempt on a snowy winter day. Just take the long way around. In Durham, I bombed my MINI around in the snow every time we had a storm, never had a problem. I drove past this spot on 70 about 20 or so minutes before this photo was taken.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
After driving around Colorado in a 3/4 ton truck with all terrain tires I can also confirm that small AWD subaru type SUVs are SIGNIFCIANTLY safer and more capable. Driving a big heavy arse RWD or 4x4 truck through that shite isn't exactly easy. You have to leave it in 4x4 hi the whole time, and it handles like a tractor.
The half ton trucks with the auto 4x4 feature are pretty nice. That stuff works well.
The half ton trucks with the auto 4x4 feature are pretty nice. That stuff works well.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:59 am to Shanegolang
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A friend of mine has an AWD Suburu, Ive seen him drive through mud in a crop field and just glide across it where I saw trucks stick in the same place.
Very common in Montana and Wyoming for hunters to come up from the South in 4x4 trucks that can’t handle the ice. They end up ditched, and the locals with Subaru s pull a lot of them out.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:02 am to Saint Alfonzo
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There a few hills in Syracuse I would never attempt on a snowy winter day.
I had to in order to get home. Lived on a mountainside. That was the only hill I couldn't handle in town.
I parked and walked a few miles several times.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:05 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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After driving around Colorado in a 3/4 ton truck with all terrain tires I can also confirm that small AWD subaru type SUVs are SIGNIFCIANTLY safer and more capable
The Subarus are very good in the snow. They got a lot better since they added the standard traction control in the late 1990s.
As far as trucks - all terrain tires are not what you want in temps below 20 degrees in any vehicle, and definitely not in the snow. You need winter tires or all season tires for that. Most trucks come standard with all seasons, but a lot of owners replace them with all terrain or off road tires - all of which are too hard of a compound for winter driving.
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The half ton trucks with the auto 4x4 feature are pretty nice. That stuff works well.
So long as they have all season tires or winter tires. They are heavy enough to be safe in the snow if the drivers aren't over confident.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:07 am to Saint Alfonzo
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I've never had any issues in the snow with a FWD vehicle.
On flat terrain, a FWD vehicle with a modern traction control system can handle moderately snowy roads without issue.
Add hills to the mix and things can get dicey in a hurry.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:09 am to goofball
Live in Colorado and have a Subaru. Can confirm. The AWD and traction system are legit in the snow and ice on flat roads and the mountains. I’ve taken it through some seriously sketchy mountain roads in the snow with no issues.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:21 am to Chad504boy
On really snowy days I'll take my wife's Forester over my F150 4x4 any day. Thing is on rails in snow.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:24 am to dgnx6
Just got stuck in the sand at the OBX with a rental SUV.
don't let that electronic shifter for different road conditions fool you.
Could feel it slipping/bogging down, tried to turn around, lost momentum and it was over. $395 for a tow of about 200 yards.
don't let that electronic shifter for different road conditions fool you.
Could feel it slipping/bogging down, tried to turn around, lost momentum and it was over. $395 for a tow of about 200 yards.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:26 am to TheNolaClap
At our deer camp, my AWD has driven past 4WD's stuck in the mud. The automatic traction (torque) control is a real game changer.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:30 am to pjab
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Tires matter more those the garbage AWD systems on smaller CUVs.
This is very, very false.
AWD all fricking day if you live where it gets ice/snow. My neighbor has shite tires on an AWD CRV and can get around just fine in bad winter weather. My other neighbor has all terrain tires on a FWD 4Runner and slides down our neighborhood hill.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 11:35 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:38 am to Chad504boy
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Does AWD improve driving in rain/puddle conditions?
Only if driving the vehicle close to the limit of traction.
Disclaimer: I've owned a subaru AWD of some form or fashion for close to 25 years....
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:45 am to CatfishJohn
I was an early 90s Explorer driver, when it came time to trade I ended up with an AWD 5.0 Mountaineer and been crazy about AWD since then. Even just pulling out on rain slick roads, no spin no nothing, just let er rip.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:49 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
Yeah I'll likely never not own an AWD vehicle. Where I live also gets a fair amount of snow and ice, and in those conditions, absolute game changer.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:18 pm to Chad504boy
Yes. AWD is much more stable in rain and puddling on the roadway.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:25 pm to whiskeygeaux
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Just be ready for when you have a tire with some sidewall puncture and they tell you you have to buy four tires or it will screw up your drivetrain. Some tire places will make you sign a waiver if you buy only one or even 2 tires.
You can get your tire shaved to match tread depths.
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