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Austin paying firm to design firefighter entrance exam so non-white men can score better

Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:39 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67531 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:39 am


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Austin is paying a firm $1.2 million to design its firefighter entrance exam so that black, Hispanics and women score better.

The contract orders the firm to use test sections that "reduce or eliminate disparate impact" on those three groups.

If those groups still score lower, the firm says it will recommend branding and "compensatory adjustments," among other things.

Federal law bans adjusting hiring test scores by race or sex. In 2009 the Supreme Court ruled that New Haven broke civil rights law when it threw out a firefighter exam because too few black candidates passed.


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Austin's firefighter entrance exam is designed around racial outcomes.

The firm that builds the test sold itself to the city by saying it "increased Blacks in the passing list by 208%" in Houston.

In its pitch it also points to Kansas City, where it says "black representation in the department matches the relevant labor market" and women make up "3 times the national representation of women in the fire service."

In Austin, the written test is 20% of an applicant's score. The other 80% is an oral interview, graded by outside evaluators who take at least four hours of "bias" training first.

In the last hiring cycle, 1,398 people applied and 667 took the test. The firm ranked them by combined score, and a selected 150-200 candidates went on to physical, medical and background checks.

Before the rankings go to the city, the firm (Morris & McDaniel) breaks every score down by race and sex and runs statistical tests on each group.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
21055 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:41 am to
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Before the rankings go to the city, the firm (Morris & McDaniel) breaks every score down by race and sex and runs statistical tests on each group.


This is the real problem here.

Don’t publish the statistics. Best candidates with best scores should get hired, regardless of sex, or race.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
80936 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:43 am to
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Don’t publish the statistics. Best candidates with best scores should get hired, regardless of sex, or race.


Seems that will be the case once the test is redesigned.

Or at least considered based on that. Hiring the best scoring isn't always the recipe for getting the best candidate. Interviews and other aptitude should all be considered.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by olehickory1767
Member since Dec 2024
639 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:44 am to
I don’t think that firefighter on the left is going to be rescuing anyone from a burning building anytime soon.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
3175 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:45 am to
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Federal law bans adjusting hiring test scores by race or sex. 


Blue governments don't give a frick about federal law.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20746 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:46 am to
Never mind something relevant like “can you pick up a 175 pound person and carry them out of a burning building?”

Much more important that they “represent the community.” Let me tell you, when you are on fire no one cares what the person saving them looks like.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
6938 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:50 am to
It's not racist if it's against white people, its fair bias....
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
12562 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:51 am to
lol
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
51379 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:53 am to
Back to DEI crap again I see.
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
2234 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:53 am to
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B) Marry her

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This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
3175 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:55 am to
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Back to DEI crap again I see.


You voted for it.









General you, not specific you.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
47429 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:55 am to
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Back to DEI crap again I see.


In blue cities like Austin, it never went away.
Posted by Keith13
Member since Apr 2024
718 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:01 am to
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I don’t think that firefighter on the left is going to be rescuing anyone from a burning building anytime soon.


Pretty sure thats the house cook
Posted by Keith13
Member since Apr 2024
718 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:02 am to
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can you pick up a 175 pound person and carry them out of a burning building


Wasnt it a lesbo fire chief in LA said the person should not put themselves in a predicament that needs rescue if you are worried if a female FF can lift you or not?
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4475 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:11 am to
The only race that feels guilty enough to usher in its own destruction - caucasian.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
2926 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:11 am to
yes.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
61037 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:17 am to
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Austin is paying a firm $1.2 million to design its firefighter entrance exam so that black, Hispanics and women score better.


On which parts are they scoring lower? Why are they scoring lower? If it's "because da 'ismsez" then they should first have to explain how.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5674 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:18 am to

Even if we ignore the illegal and immoral goals of this venture, why the hell does it cost $1.2 million to design a local civil service test?

Posted by Furlong the Red
Uptown
Member since Dec 2022
1345 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:19 am to
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Hiring the best scoring isn't always the recipe for getting the best candidate.


Then why give the test?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
20418 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 11:19 am to
I would be embarrassed if i wasn’t white and the entrance exam was redone so i could pass.

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