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re: Aussie police tase 95 year old woman to death.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:33 am to riverdiver
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:33 am to riverdiver
Ah, talk about an ad hominem lil guy. The only "files" I touched were my contract and any leave paperwork I filed with S1. But you're just an emasculated butthurt loser on the internet, so I really couldn't care less what you think.
Were there other residents in the immediate pathway towards the officers? They were in equal danger and the officers have a duty to protect the victims from the aggressor. Not that you have that "common sense" you cry for or anything because you're a babyback bitch.
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Multiple officers there. Distract her, have one of the officers walk up behind her, and grab her wrist.
Were there other residents in the immediate pathway towards the officers? They were in equal danger and the officers have a duty to protect the victims from the aggressor. Not that you have that "common sense" you cry for or anything because you're a babyback bitch.
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:03 am to StringedInstruments
quote:Cops are pussies. This is known.
They tased her because she was holding a steak knife. When she started moving towards them, USING HER WALKER, they fired the taser.
What a bunch of pussies.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:24 am to VictoryHill
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Ah, talk about an ad hominem lil guy. The only "files" I touched were my contract and any leave paperwork I filed with S1. But you're just an emasculated butthurt loser on the internet, so I really couldn't care less what you think.
quote:
Multiple officers there. Distract her, have one of the officers walk up behind her, and grab her wrist.
Were there other residents in the immediate pathway towards the officers? They were in equal danger and the officers have a duty to protect the victims from the aggressor. Not that you have that "common sense" you cry for or anything because you're a babyback bitch.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 11:54 am to VictoryHill
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Demented woman armed with serrated knife. That's about where it ends for me. Don't care she had a walker, didn't weigh 100 lbs. and she's 95. The knife cuts the same
Or you could have simply got the frick out of her way and deescalated the situation. She was physically incapable of moving any significant distance without the aid of a Walker.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 12:25 pm to Strannix
You never know.
I worked in nursing homes. Lotsa maw maws are stronger and quicker than they appear.
I saw one grab my nurse by the hair and it took a lot of force to make her let go.
I've been scratched, punched, kick.
They told her out the knife down and they didn't.
What would you do?
I worked in nursing homes. Lotsa maw maws are stronger and quicker than they appear.
I saw one grab my nurse by the hair and it took a lot of force to make her let go.
I've been scratched, punched, kick.
They told her out the knife down and they didn't.
What would you do?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 1:03 pm to doc baklava
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What would you do?
Prob have everybody step back then turn on jeopardy to deescalate.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 1:20 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
I've faced that same situation, with a younger senior. I just kept my distance from him and and kept him inside the front door of his dwelling. waited for police but the fire department showed up first and hit him with a blast from a hose and that was that. Nobody died!
I'm guessing the older person took the knife from the dining hall. What do you think?
I'm guessing the older person took the knife from the dining hall. What do you think?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:00 pm to VictoryHill
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Were there other residents in the immediate pathway towards the officers? They were in equal danger and the officers have a duty to protect the victims from the aggressor. Not that you have that "common sense" you cry for or anything because you're a babyback bitch.
If this is the your stance, and she is this much of a threat to everyone in the vicinity, then why would the officers not shoot her?
If they don’t shoot her because she’s 200 with a walker then the threat isn’t immediate and a universe of other options open up instead of defaulting to taser. Such as spike stripping her walker
Come on man, you’re a college graduate after all. Lols
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:25 pm to Strannix
Wonder if she’d have gotten in trouble if she kicked the walker out from under her.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:31 pm to StringedInstruments
Definitely a threat , that walker could have killed the cop.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:32 pm to StringedInstruments
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They tased her because she was holding a steak knife.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:08 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Or you could have simply got the frick out of her way and deescalated the situation. She was physically incapable of moving any significant distance without the aid of a Walker
Outside the LEO playbook unfortunately, they tend to stick to the IDNGAF about you or your safety I am in charge and going home safe credo.
Thats all fine and good when there is a real threat, this is not one of those time, the only rational thing to have done was empty the room and leave her alone but they are not capable of not being obeyed. Once they start barking orders they will kill you if you do not obey, it is their default.
We have real issues with the way LEO's are trained and who we hire but that is another conversation.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 3:33 pm to WhereisAtlanta
There is a lot of hearsay and innuendo floating around in this thread, so let me step in and get everything five-by-five again. Most but not all of this crap is coming from civilians. You need to all let me play "good cop" and just pray to God you never have to meet the bad cop.
As a designated marksman I've fired so many rounds of .22 Magnum that I'll have stress fractures in my sternum well into the afterlife. You're welcome.
Security threats are ubitiquous and omnipresent, and I'm not talking about grandma's new Nigerian boyfriend. Drained 401-Ks don't really matter when your trying to stuff some poor kid's liver back into his peritoneal cavity while he looks you dead in the eye. I've been there and you do NOT want the T-shirt. It's a lot less comfortable than your lucky wife-beater... Terry.
Let me try and tie this up with a bow on it for the jock-sniffers and "script kiddies" here: the next time you see a HERO with a badge, get out your shinebox and get to scrubbing. Maybe you'll see your over-chinned refelction in the shine of my Altama Havoc 2000s and resolve to do better, to stop wasting your time posting mean and hurtful things on interent chat boards.
If not, my brothers and I stand ready to apply some much-needed corrective discipline. Porpus out.
As a designated marksman I've fired so many rounds of .22 Magnum that I'll have stress fractures in my sternum well into the afterlife. You're welcome.
Security threats are ubitiquous and omnipresent, and I'm not talking about grandma's new Nigerian boyfriend. Drained 401-Ks don't really matter when your trying to stuff some poor kid's liver back into his peritoneal cavity while he looks you dead in the eye. I've been there and you do NOT want the T-shirt. It's a lot less comfortable than your lucky wife-beater... Terry.
Let me try and tie this up with a bow on it for the jock-sniffers and "script kiddies" here: the next time you see a HERO with a badge, get out your shinebox and get to scrubbing. Maybe you'll see your over-chinned refelction in the shine of my Altama Havoc 2000s and resolve to do better, to stop wasting your time posting mean and hurtful things on interent chat boards.
If not, my brothers and I stand ready to apply some much-needed corrective discipline. Porpus out.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:34 pm to WhereisAtlanta
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Outside the LEO playbook unfortunately, they tend to stick to the IDNGAF about you or your safety I am in charge and going home safe credo.
Not true at all. And there are plenty videos available showing cops being too hesitant and getting themselves in trouble, esp post-BLM riots when they’re worried about being persecuted for defending themselves. I saw one video where the cops had a knife wielding man (fully mobile and able-bodied, not 95 and using a walker) surrounded but refused to shoot him until he finally stabbed a cop. They were pleading with the guy, continuously backing up when the guy came towards them, and let the guy get so close that he finally charged a cop and stabbed him before finally getting shot. That happens often despite leftist fantasies that cops are out there trying to murder people.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:11 pm to Porpus
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There is a lot of hearsay and innuendo floating around in this thread, so let me step in and get everything five-by-five again. Most but not all of this crap is coming from civilians. You need to all let me play "good cop" and just pray to God you never have to meet the bad cop.
As a designated marksman I've fired so many rounds of .22 Magnum that I'll have stress fractures in my sternum well into the afterlife. You're welcome.
Security threats are ubitiquous and omnipresent, and I'm not talking about grandma's new Nigerian boyfriend. Drained 401-Ks don't really matter when your trying to stuff some poor kid's liver back into his peritoneal cavity while he looks you dead in the eye. I've been there and you do NOT want the T-shirt. It's a lot less comfortable than your lucky wife-beater... Terry.
Let me try and tie this up with a bow on it for the jock-sniffers and "script kiddies" here: the next time you see a HERO with a badge, get out your shinebox and get to scrubbing. Maybe you'll see your over-chinned refelction in the shine of my Altama Havoc 2000s and resolve to do better, to stop wasting your time posting mean and hurtful things on interent chat boards.
If not, my brothers and I stand ready to apply some much-needed corrective discipline. Porpus out.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:37 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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Even a 95 year old with a walker can get in a lucky slash or stab.
Was she fast or something? I mean, it seems like that would be easy to avoid.
Throw some bouncy balls at here and have someone come from behind.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:41 pm to biglego
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Not true at all. And there are plenty videos available showing cops being too hesitant and getting themselves in trouble,
There is a difference in "getting in trouble" and being dead and far too many police encounters are ending with someone dead.
There are many factors some of which they can not control but the default needs to be de-escalate rather than comply or die.
Nearly every single encounter gone wrong begins with simple non compliance and escalation, there are other ways to accomplish your goal.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 9:42 pm to OweO
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Was she fast or something? I mean, it seems like that would be easy to avoid.
One would think that maybe the police could’ve kicked the Walker out from under her and then subdued her
She might’ve died from the fall, but tasing her seems harsh
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 pm to StringedInstruments
No common sense or awareness.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:52 pm to VictoryHill
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Demented woman armed with serrated knife. That's about where it ends for me. Don't care she had a walker, didn't weigh 100 lbs. and she's 95. The knife cuts the same.
She clearly posed some subjective threat or the staff would not have called the police. Don't know the facts but I trust the press less than the cops. Perhaps there were other senile old patients in the room that could have been harmed.
But it seems the police could have easily knocked her over with the contents of a bed pan or thrown a blanket over her rather than using a taser. But a fall could have also killed her.
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