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re: Aurora, CO movie theater shooter. Capital punishment or die In a cell?

Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:29 am to
Why is the cost of Death Row so much greater than housing with the general population of prisoners? There shouldn't be that much cost differential. The biggest cost of Death Row is the legal fees for the seemingly endless appeals process afforded those sentenced to die. The prison industry complex doesn't profit from Death Row. It is the convicts, and the lawyers who get paid to represent the convicts, who benefit from the system.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10308 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:41 am to
I have major problems with the state executing citizens. The fact that people are, in this very thread, advocating torture is disheartening as well.

I'm going to go ahead and cut people off and say "yes" if it was my children, I'd want them dead. But we live in civilized society and that's why we have Juries to pass impartial judgment. I can't expect someone who is grieving tremendously to not want to impart extreme pain on those who committed the crime, it's simple human nature.

Execution, torture, and eye for eye mentality don't belong in modern society.
Posted by RJL2
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Member since Apr 2015
1934 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:42 am to
as a tax payer, whatever is the cheapest way to get rid of him
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3165 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:42 am to
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Your imagination is plenty active. You do not live in a democracy. You live in a republic. There is a difference.


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Is amazing how many people still don't know this. Have you ever read a the definitions or maybe thought about the words when saying the pledge?


This is like saying "You're not riding and animal, you are riding a horse," or "It's amazing how many horse riders think they are riding animals."

There are different forms of democratic government, a republic is one of them.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:44 am to
No make him suffer every day of his life that means beat his arse pis s on his food. Whatever would mske his life s living hell. put him alone in a room with no window and nothing to read or write on. no stimulation whatsoever just s hole in the game floor
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18921 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:44 am to
The guy seemed mentally unstable. He needs to be locked far away from other people.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80871 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:45 am to
Capital punishment

There's no way of knowing if some bleeding heart judge won't let him out in the future.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52646 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 9:47 am to
I volunteer to rid the taxpayers of this burden.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68609 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:10 am to
Die in the courtroom.....by fire
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:20 am to
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He should be kept alive and tortured to the full extent his body can handle everyday for atleast thirty years. Then kill him slowly with a thousand cuts from a butter knife




Who's paying for that?

You and I.




Kill him with a 25 cent bullet and move on.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:22 am to
Either kill him immediately after the gavel sounds or put him in solitary for the rest of his life.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:30 am to
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I have major problems with the state executing citizens. The fact that people are, in this very thread, advocating torture is disheartening as well.

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Execution, torture, and eye for eye mentality don't belong in modern society.


I don't look at people like you poorly, I just beg to differ. I am for capital punishment, but I would prefer firing squad, as bullet is cheaper.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:32 am to
death by castration
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10308 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:40 pm to
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I don't look at people like you poorly, I just beg to differ. I am for capital punishment, but I would prefer firing squad, as bullet is cheaper.


I understand where people come from with this mentality as well. I just know how imperfect our system is and I would prefer 10 guilty monsters stay alive than the execution of 1 innocent person.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30550 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:39 pm to
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I just know how imperfect our system is and I would prefer 10 guilty monsters stay alive than the execution of 1 innocent person.


I agree with this, but in this guys case there is no doubt. It is open and shut. Kill him.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6690 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:03 pm to
Witness testimony is now complete in the sentencing trial of James Holmes. Closing arguments will be made tomorrow and then jurors will decide life or death for that POS.

The prosecution chose Ashley Moser, mother of Veronica Moser, 6, and an unborn child that were both lost at the hands of James Holmes that night, to be the final witness on the stand. A great choice by the prosecution to really hit the jurors hard with emotion.

LINK

Denver Post:

CENTENNIAL — The final witness in the Aurora theater shooting trial rolled past the defense table in her wheelchair on Wednesday and told jurors about the death of her 6-year-old daughter, Veronica.

"I don't know who I am anymore," Ashley Moser said, choking back tears from a makeshift witness stand. "I was a mom when I was 18, and that's all I knew how to be. And now I'm not a mom."

Moser, who was critically wounded in the attack and lost her pregnancy, was the 302nd witness in a 15-week trial that began April 27.

She was testifying in the final penalty phase of the murder trial of James Holmes, who was convicted of killing 12 people and wounding 70 others in the July 20, 2012, attack.

Holmes told the judge on Wednesday that he will not testify on his own behalf, and he said he will not address the jurors.

District Attorney George Brauchler asked Moser what she misses most about Veronica Moser-Sullivan, her daughter and the youngest victim of the theater attack.

"Everything," Moser said, again crying.

"Her smile. Her laugh. The way she was just my little silly billy. She just always tried to make people happy," she said.

Moser said Veronica consumed all of her life from the time she was born.

"She was like my best friend," Moser said, sniffling. "She was my life."

The final step of sentencing for Holmes began with prosecutors calling the parents, spouses and siblings of the 12 people killed in the attack and asking them about how their lives have changed in the three years since. In legal terms, it is known as "victim-impact evidence."

Attorneys plan to deliver their closing arguments to jurors on Thursday, when jurors will issue a final verdict: life in prison or the death penalty.

It will be up to jurors to decide how long their deliberations will continue.


ETA: I'm sure there will be video available in the near future of her entire testimony. I don't know if I can watch it. If I do, and watch the whole thing, I may need a tissue.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 6:08 pm
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
12429 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 6:11 pm to
I say lock him in a notoriously haunted building and let the ghosts kill him
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