re: Aug Study release.... 24 randomized controlled trials and again prove Ivermectin works

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The meta-analysis study makes no such claim that the drug is proven to work. By you changing the language from "may reduce" and "likely to have significant impact" to proven tells me all I need to know about ability to correctly process information. But keep Sheepin', brother.

Baa baa

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I get it bro. You don’t want anything to get in the way of mass vaccination. I’m just happy that places who have an issue mass vaccinating for their extremely large population can mass produce a simple cheap treatment that seems to reduce the case load.

This meta analysis includes three studies from an author that was literally making up data in ivermectin trials. His study was removed from the first meta analysis a few weeks ago and once you removed it, the meta analysis found no difference with placebo.

LINK

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Meyerowitz-Katz told the Guardian that “this is one of the biggest ivermectin studies out there”, and it appeared to him the data was “just totally faked”. This was concerning because two meta-analyses of ivermectin for treating Covid-19 had included the Elgazzar study in the results. A meta-analysis is a statistical analysis that combines the results of multiple scientific studies to determine what the overall scientific literature has found about a treatment or intervention. “Because the Elgazzar study is so large, and so massively positive – showing a 90% reduction in mortality – it hugely skews the evidence in favour of ivermectin,” Meyerowitz-Katz said. “If you remove this one study from the scientific literature, suddenly there are very few positive randomised control trials of ivermectin for Covid-19. Indeed, if you get rid of just this research, most meta-analyses that have found positive results would have their conclusions entirely reversed.”

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The fraudulent study accounts for almost all of the positive of this meta analysis and the study population was “in hospitalized patients”

The same patients that jjdoc and other ivermectin/hcq proponents say are too late to treat with ivermectin/hcq.

Get a doctor to prescribe it.

Don’t take livestock doses from the feed store.

This is why no one is pushing it… no one can make money off of it unless they find a unique way to administer it.



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Even if you make a new and useful scientific discovery that no one else has ever thought of, you cannot get a patent on it because you did not actually create the fact you discovered. That fact was always in existence, you were just the first to notice it. However, if you can come up with an invention that makes use of that fact, you can patent the invention.

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The vaccine is better but is it so bad that something else might work too. Hell even for the “breakthrough” vaccine cases to potentially shorten their mild symptom time frame.

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It would be great…but most of this study has already been shown to be fake and the largest studies show little to no effectiveness in treating covid

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It would be great…but most of this study has already been shown to be fake and the largest studies show little to no effectiveness in treating covid

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Is there a link to this? Can't just say it without evidence.

Not directed at you, but isn't most of the argument on not taking Ivermectin due to the fact that concentrations from Ivermectin for animals greater than what is needed for humans, and too much could have issues? Sort of like differing doses for Gabapentin? Folks I know don't want people to take the animal drug because they know most people are too dumb to know the difference and that could be problematic. It isn't just that the vaccination is already being shown to drastically reduce death and hospitalization vs not taking it. A side-by-side study of vaccine and proper amounts of Ivermectin could be useful.

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Ok so are India and Japan not using it and it showing success? I don’t really care but it sounds like they are giving it out like candy and the situations there are improving dramatically.

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i dont know

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I don’t really care but it sounds like they are giving it out like candy and the situations there are improving dramatically.

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Not getting into the ivermectin argument BUT to show how 30k foot views can be confounded do you think JBE's most recent mask mandate was causally related to the reduction of hospitalizations and deaths. There have been lots of temporal correlations like this with mask mandates so using the same logic one could argue they are the correct way to proceed.

People who think that the medical community isn’t aware of the papers they’re printing out at home and carrying to the doctor’s office to demand ivermectin (or worse think that the doctors are a part of some broad conspiracy to suppress the medication) are narcissistic and lack insight into their own naivety.