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re: At what point does population growth exceed the earth's carrying capacity?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:34 am to Draconian Sanctions
Depends on the rate of technological advancement and the access to that technology as the hardest hit areas in the case of overpopulation are in developing countries. People have been predicting Malthusian catastrophe for centuries.
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Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Does your Subaru or Prius have a dozen bumper stickers proclaiming your devotion?
Don't drive either.
Is that your wife in your avi?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:35 am to Ugandan President
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Is that your wife in your avi?
When she first wakes up, yes.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:35 am to Tigerlaff
And what causes natural processes?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:35 am to Crawdaddy
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Each person takes up lets say 2 sq feet. Make it more or less if you like. 7 Billion people standing side by side takes up how much land?
Its been done, but I don't think that really makes a salient point any ways, even if it displays how small we are in comparison to Earth.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:36 am to BayouBandit24
No way!
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:36 am to usc6158
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People have been predicting Malthusian catastrophe for centuries.
Ya, and I say they have been wrong for so long because its based on the false premise that you can "overpopulate" something in the first place.
This post was edited on 4/6/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
As soon as we cure cancer
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:38 am to Ugandan President
quote:uhhh yea you basically did
Did I ever say that in here anywhere?
quote:coming from the guy who thinks earth is sentient I will def take that to heart
So don't be too upset when I assume that you're just a typical dumbshite Louisianian.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
Really depends upon our ability to deal with the problem. Vast changes in our diet and use of resources can do a lot.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:40 am to BayouBandit24
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Unless a severe plague like thing happens.
We WILL have a nuclear war in the next 50 years. There is a very good chance that it will involve Pakistan.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:40 am to fr33manator
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And what causes natural processes?
Differences in temperature, pressure gradients, potential energy being converted to kinetic energy, etc. The list is endless. Are you going for a reductio ad absurdum argument?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:44 am to Draconian Sanctions
Who are you? Hank Johnson? I don't think that human population can "exceed the carrying capacity per se, but we can cause tectonic activity. It depends on the distribution of people and our structures/material possessions relative to the margins of tectonic plates and unstable regions. One of the greatest contributors to our influence on seismic events is the removal of gas and oil from the crust. By pumping these substance out of the ground we remove support from the crust and great instability. Many geophysicists have suggests that underground explosions (particularly nuclear testing) can cause seismic activity.
ETA: My bad. Just reread the title......I thought you referring to the crust supporting weight.
ETA: My bad. Just reread the title......I thought you referring to the crust supporting weight.
This post was edited on 4/6/14 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:44 am to SundayFunday
The overpopulation myth was reborn in the 60's with the acceleration of the environmental movement. It's based on fear, not reality.
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FIFTY years from now the world's population will be declining, with no end in sight. Unless people's values change greatly, several centuries from now there could be fewer people living in the entire world than live in the United States today
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MANY scientists believe that by transforming the earth’s natural landscapes, we are undermining the very life support systems that sustain us. Like bacteria in a petri dish, our exploding numbers are reaching the limits of a finite planet, with dire consequences. Disaster looms as humans exceed the earth’s natural carrying capacity. Clearly, this could not be sustainable.
This is nonsense. Even today, I hear some of my scientific colleagues repeat these and similar claims — often unchallenged. And once, I too believed them. Yet these claims demonstrate a profound misunderstanding of the ecology of human systems. The conditions that sustain humanity are not natural and never have been
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:44 am to Tigris
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We WILL have a nuclear war in the next 50 years. There is a very good chance that it will involve Pakistan.
Thanks, Nostradamus.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:it hurts my brain when people keep spouting this overpopulation bullshite
RogerTheShrubber
if there was ever a problem regarding population, it would be underpopulation in certain countries, and gender/sex imbalance in places like China
This post was edited on 4/6/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:48 am to Pilot Tiger
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it hurts my brain when people keep spouting this overpopulation bullshite
Same here, particularly when there is so much information that debunks the whole premise.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:52 am to Tigerlaff
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Differences in temperature, pressure gradients, potential energy being converted to kinetic energy, etc. The list is endless. Are you going for a reductio ad absurdum argument?
You're telling me that something beyond our ken is impossible?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The overpopulation myth was reborn in the 60's with the acceleration of the environmental movement. It's based on fear, not reality.
so you're saying there is no number that would be too much?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 11:54 am to fr33manator
quote:quit your fallacy bullshite
You're telling me that something beyond our ken is impossible?
prove to me there is no such thing as an invisible monster ghost demon that stares at me at night when I sleep
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