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re: Asking for prayers for my dad **UPDATE, want to thank TD nation**

Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94954 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:38 pm to
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You're neither, to be fair

Correct

If I was a nurse I would have higher probability to spout nonsesne and post on facebook

Since im not, I repeat the medicine protocols the doctors use
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:38 pm to
Why wasn’t he given hydroxychloroquine?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20357 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:39 pm to
What a truly terrible thing your dad and your family are going through. I hope this somehow works out and you guys are ALL able to pull through this.

Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9031 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:39 pm to
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Go on…


For starters, his first meal they brought him was lasagna. Even I get acid reflux thinking about that. Broth, fruit, etc. might've been better options for a sick person.

Other procedures that aren't protocol that are possibly life-saving include very high dose vitamin C delivered by IV. I feel like the approach here has been to sit and wait for symptoms to worsen before doing anything.

He needed to try to be more active and not just lie in bed. Even just standing with a walker or getting physical therapy while in treatment are also other suggestions I could think of.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:39 pm to
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I'm just dumbfounded that many doctors are ignoring the MATH Protocol in these cases.



As far as the vent goes it looks like they do
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118727 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:41 pm to
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Other procedures that aren't protocol that are possibly life-saving include very high dose vitamin C delivered by IV.


The MATH protocol I linked includes this.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120224 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:41 pm to
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Other procedures that aren't protocol that are possibly life-saving include very high dose vitamin C delivered by IV.


Vitamin supplementation is great as prophylaxis against severe disease. That aint gonna save you once you are hospitalized
Posted by LSUWoodworker
St George "God's Country "
Member since Dec 2007
18558 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:42 pm to
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very high dose vitamin C delivered by IV


Makes expensive, bright yellow urine.

Vitamin D appears to have so therapeutic response.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120224 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:42 pm to
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He needed to try to be more active and not just lie in bed. Even just standing with a walker or getting physical therapy while in treatment are also other suggestions I could think of.


Nope. That makes you get more short of breath and go downhill quicker. Getting up to sit in a chair or go to bathroom is fine
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118727 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:44 pm to
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Vitamin D appears to have so therapeutic response.



Too late for vitamin D. Plus you don't want to IV vitamin D, it's not water soluble.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:44 pm to
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He needed to try to be more active and not just lie in bed. Even just standing with a walker or getting physical therapy while in treatment are also other suggestions I could think of.

Hospitals not allowing visitation and treating Covid patients like they have Ebola has greatly contributed to how many people have died. Patients have no family support or anyone there to fight for them, get them to be active, etc. No one at the hospital is going to be checking on a patient like a spouse or son/daughter would be.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:45 pm to
Prayers for your dad but prepare yourself for the possibility of him not getting any better. I am an anesthesia provider and have dealt with Covid positive intubated patients and the percentages that come off of the vent is very low. Since the first Covid wave, I have only witnessed one person who came off of the Vent and went home. I don’t know your dad’s co-morbidities but I can tell you that we have a healthy 24 year old male who is on the Vent at our facility. People just don’t get any better and they eventually go into multi-system organ failure. If I had to put a percentage on those ventilated surviving, it’s probably around 5%. I know others have commented that half are coming off the vent but that hasn’t been what I am seeing at our facility. Sorry to hear about your dad. I just convinced my wife to get the vaccine and she is also in the medical field.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:46 pm to
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Hospitals not allowing visitation and treating Covid patients like they have Ebola has greatly contributed to how many people have died.


I think this is right. Families not around to ask questions and assist.

Hospitals are overwhelmed and patients need an advocate with them
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118727 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Hospitals not allowing visitation and treating Covid patients like they have Ebola has greatly contributed to how many people have died. Patients have no family support or anyone there to fight for them, get them to be active, etc. No one at the hospital is going to be checking on a patient like a spouse or son/daughter would be.




Allowing patients to see loved ones in the hospital would have saved many lives IMO. And no, I have no double blind study checked by the AMA to make that assertion.
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
772 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:47 pm to
I hope it all goes well for him in the end baw.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10308 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:48 pm to
Prayers and thoughts to your sweet father and family. God bless.
Posted by Jimbowie397
Member since May 2017
98 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:48 pm to
Prayers
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 7:03 pm
Posted by LSUWoodworker
St George "God's Country "
Member since Dec 2007
18558 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:48 pm to
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oo late for vitamin D. Plus you don't want to IV vitamin D, it's not water soluble.


A,D,E,K only lipid soluble. Seems the issue with Vit C would be once the body is saturated the remaining is discarded, also could have acid/base impacts.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3133 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:51 pm to
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About half our intubated Covid patients end up coming off vent. Its a bad situation but not a death sentence


Was about to post that know of two this week, ages 69 and mid-30s come off of the vent. Prayers to you and your family.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110754 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 1:51 pm to
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Covid patients mindlessly being put on vents when it doesn’t help
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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