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re: Ascension parish president proposes year-long moratorium on new developments

Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2768 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
I wish like hell Zachary would do this. It's getting insane up here with the massive neighborhoods being built all over the place.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41780 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:27 pm to
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ents by tenderfoot tigah
That's going to destroy jobs.


In EBR drainage issues have been ignored. We haven’t even submitted our drainage plan to the feds.

We spend money to have a great library system, a great park system, bike sharing, road diets, bike paths, express buses, and z myriad of social programs, but all we do is talk about drainage plans.

The concrete canal next to my office is half full of crud. City Park Lakes are silting up, no one dredges the Amite River or the main tributaries that feed into it. Each rain puts more crud into the system leaving less capacity for the next rain event. Major rsin events bring tons of crap into the drss as image system. Each major event leaves less room for water in the next event,

All we the politicians have done for years is spend too much of our tax dollars on nonessential goodies. We are where we are now partially because of this neglect.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:30 pm to
Wouldn't hurt if they can do something productive in that year - such as raising the finished floor elevation requirements or clear up their current drainage infrastructure, which is a piecemeal network of solutions that are holistically insufficient in dealing with flash floods like we saw yesterday or the river flooding like we saw in 2016.

An unsettling fact is that some of the housing on the low side of Bluff, Alligator Bayou, and along Manchac road should never have been built there and need to be either raised or demolished. Spanish Lake is a natural estuary that retains flood waters and keeps south Baton Rouge and northern Ascension dryer than they would otherwise be in these flood events.

And Baton Rouge needs to set boundaries for all of that development going on in the U Club area, because it will eventually encroach on that drainage basin.

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:38 pm to
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In EBR drainage issues have been ignored. We haven’t even submitted our drainage plan to the feds.



It's the whole region if not the whole state.

I actually think some drainage basins in the area south of Highland with pumps that can push the water into the Mississippi River would be tremendous help - likely placed in Ascension where the water naturally flows. That would help southern EBR and Ascension tremendously. And they need to finish the Comite Canal yesterday and build out the Darlington Reservoir to control the Amite and Comite Rivers, protecting northern EBR, Livingston, and St. Helena.

As of now, West Baton Rouge is still mostly undeveloped and (for the most part) drains better. It's the area where some additional residential development would likely focus if there were another bridge to actually get to the area.

But since Louisiana doesn't build new highways anymore, all of the suburban sprawl for both New Orleans and Baton Rouge gets dumped along I-10 or I-12 between the metro areas and along the north shore. And while they are better drained than New Orleans, they also lack the infrastructure to handle flooding. And most of those areas are incapable of planning for any of the growth they have seen.

There are similar problems in St. Tammany as there are in the Baton Rouge area.

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The concrete canal next to my office is half full of crud. City Park Lakes are silting up, no one dredges the Amite River or the main tributaries that feed into it. Each rain puts more crud into the system leaving less capacity for the next rain event. Major rsin events bring tons of crap into the drss as image system. Each major event leaves less room for water in the next event,



They don't maintain what they have very well. And I think a lot of other drainage canals and bayous need to be cleared and lined with concrete to prevent blockages from vegetation.

That and I think South Baton Rouge and Ascension need some drainage "lakes" with canals that can in turn be pumped over the levee and into the Mississippi River sort of like what I have outlined in yellow here. When they know a weather event is coming, turn on the pumps and start draining the natural swamps and low lying areas that retain flood waters fast as possible, and keep the pumps running until the flooding threat has passed.

When there is no flood threat, turn the pumps off and allow the swamps and canals to retain whatever water level is natural to them.

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This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 1:44 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46364 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:41 pm to
10 years too late

And are you listening Livingston Parish???
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

the water into the Mississippi River would be tremendous help


This is just passing the problem onto the next guy
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:42 pm to
It must finally be reaching the tipping point in AP where new development isn't bringing in as much money as killing property values and increased infrastructure costs.

Although the government usually acts when it is too late.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted by geauxcats10
AP
Member since Jul 2010
4240 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:43 pm to
What about the people who own acreage with no nearby neighbors to affect that want to build their single family home with pier and beam construction?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Hey there Dave Amrheim


He has done his part. It is Parish driving development in Zachary School District.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16852 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:45 pm to
How much is that study going to cost?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

This is just passing the problem onto the next guy


Spanish Lake used to drain into the river before we built a levee system. Most of Memphis drains into the Wolf and Nonconnah Rivers that flow into the Mississippi already.

Most of the country drains into the Mississippi. It can handle parts of a couple of parishes in Louisiana if the water level isn't high.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:46 pm to
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I wish like hell Zachary would do this.


Very few actually in Zachary.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

I wish like hell Zachary would do this. It's getting insane up here with the massive neighborhoods being built all over the place.



At some point in the (hopefully) near future, Zachary will have the Comite Diversion Canal pushing rainwater into the Mississippi River. So they will eventually be able to handle additional development if they are really stupid about it.

Not saying they are being smart about it at all. I know there are a bunch of new neighborhoods popping up in that district even right now with high lumber prices.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8786 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:51 pm to
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Pretty sure Aaron Lawler will vote against this.


It appears like the Parish President is the only one and is constantly fighting a pro-development council. People voted in Cointment to restrict uncontrolled growth and they fight him. Especially Lawler. I guess because nobody wanted to vote for the chick running against him.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:53 pm to
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What about the people who own acreage with no nearby neighbors to affect that want to build their single family home with pier and beam construction?


I don't believe that falls under the development discussed. You are smart going with Pier and beam. I believe in AP you can do slab on your own land but you cannot bring in dirt so most have to dig a pond. Someone told me they don't monitor where dirt comes from very well though and people get around it.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted by JBrignac
Member since Oct 2017
186 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:54 pm to
The guy that changes his vote to ‘Yes’ for huge subdivision in support of a moratorium
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2693 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:54 pm to
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Aaron Lawler
he pitched a moratorium when he got elected a few years ago

guess that didn’t work out
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76276 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Spanish Lake used to drain into the river before we built a levee system.


Bayou Manchac connected where the powerplant sits today.


Developers will just threaten to sue like they do everytime this is dicussed. The council will back down like they do everytime.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
6616 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:56 pm to
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He has done his part. It is Parish driving development in Zachary School District.


The parish issues are indeed worse and out of his control, but the developments coming up on port hudson pride (reserve), 964 by the plantation and across rollins place are going to have the same questions.
Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4907 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:56 pm to

According to Chase Melancon on his fb page, the proposed moratorium is to stop all dividing of lots for subdivisions, family partitions, simple divisions, etc. It won't stop construction on existing lots and/or work in progress.
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