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re: As of this minute, has the US Covid response been a success from a medical standpoint?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:49 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:49 pm to Oilfieldbiology
I would disagree. The response changed from locale to locale and we lacked the supplies to test early and to stem the spread. We ran out of sterile swabs (q-tips) for testing. That cannot be qualified by a win under any scenario.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:50 pm to IAmNERD
Trump had the wisdom and foresight to stop flights from China before a single death occurred. I would say he did a pretty good job.
The hospital data is fake for government hand-outs. The CDC adjusted numbers are roughly half of the original.
The hospital data is fake for government hand-outs. The CDC adjusted numbers are roughly half of the original.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:52 pm to Methuselah
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:53 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Maybe instead of everyone blaming it on Trump or spouting conspiracy theories we could have a little introspection into the country. We need more American manufacturing. We need more altruism. We need less politics. We need to trust our leaders to make the best decisions they can for the greatest number of people regardless of their political party.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:54 pm to Methuselah
That is a question for the medical community and one best asked in the future.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:56 pm to jennBN
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:59 pm to Eighteen
I wish we could take a moment and collectively learn from our mistakes to make this country stronger. There is no shame in admitting we have some shortcomings and trying to prevent things from being worse next time. And there will be a next time. Mother Nature is a beast that will never be tamed. If this happens when my children grow up I hope we respond better.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:01 pm to jennBN
Respond better how? Because shifting manufacturing and operating with an excess amount of hospital beds isn’t reacting to the next pandemic. It’s reacting to this one.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:04 pm to Scruffy
A failure of government at just about all levels, but most importantly at the state level.
Go check the other thread for the high % of Covid deaths that have occurred at nursing homes. Many of us have been pining for the extreme testing and vetting of nursing homes, wanting testing focused on all LTC facilities. See this post I posted back on March 10.
State governments around the country were more concerned with locking down everyone and shipping confirmed cases INTO nursing homes.
Just a complete and abject failure.
Go check the other thread for the high % of Covid deaths that have occurred at nursing homes. Many of us have been pining for the extreme testing and vetting of nursing homes, wanting testing focused on all LTC facilities. See this post I posted back on March 10.
State governments around the country were more concerned with locking down everyone and shipping confirmed cases INTO nursing homes.
Just a complete and abject failure.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:05 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Shifting manufacturing has to be done. We are still operating with shortages from Hurricane Maria. How long are we going to wait before we treat healthcare supplies as a national security issue?
In so far as hospital beds, it’s not feasible to increase those by much but we could promote preventative care and encourage healthier lifestyles. Both of those would prevent hospitalizations in the future and lead to less beds needed.
In so far as hospital beds, it’s not feasible to increase those by much but we could promote preventative care and encourage healthier lifestyles. Both of those would prevent hospitalizations in the future and lead to less beds needed.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:06 pm to Methuselah
Not great.
The vents being worthless and a huge reason they scared us into flattening the curve.
Sending positive covid patients that didn't require hospitalization back into the fricking breeding ground.
Those two things directly led to inflated deaths.
The vents being worthless and a huge reason they scared us into flattening the curve.
Sending positive covid patients that didn't require hospitalization back into the fricking breeding ground.
Those two things directly led to inflated deaths.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:08 pm to sanora
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Lmao no, but i imagine there's a lot of righties that refuse to accept that truth because it makes their god king look bad for dragging his feet and fricking it up
Starting from Jan 14th, lay out your plan.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:10 pm to CivilEngineerThrow
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Ok. Trump banned travel from China which is good, but he could've done it prepared for it a little earlier.
Yeah a day after the Who finally said, oh shite.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:15 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:25 pm to TheCaterpillar
We'll see if they delayed the inevitable.
S. Korea is such a poor example for the US though. A country that is effectively a small island with N. Korea on its northern border and probably 2% of our air travel capacity.
S. Korea is such a poor example for the US though. A country that is effectively a small island with N. Korea on its northern border and probably 2% of our air travel capacity.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:26 pm to Methuselah
Sure. So is amputating an arm, but it's overkill for a hangnail.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:36 pm to jennBN
I agree 100%.
The failure is the initial and continued shutdown everywhere that wasn’t a hot spot for this virus. That’s what I’m trying to get at. What specific reactions did you want that are not wholesale infrastructure changes?
The failure is the initial and continued shutdown everywhere that wasn’t a hot spot for this virus. That’s what I’m trying to get at. What specific reactions did you want that are not wholesale infrastructure changes?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:42 pm to sanora
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Lmao no, but i imagine there's a lot of righties that refuse to accept that truth because it makes their god king look bad for dragging his feet and fricking it up
Hey dipshit,
You asshats think this is all a one man deal? Look at YOUR idiot hero governors.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:47 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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Trump had the wisdom and foresight to stop flights from China before a single death occurred. I would say he did a pretty good job.
The hospital data is fake for government hand-outs. The CDC adjusted numbers are roughly half of the original.
Not sure what any of this has to do with what I said ( unless you weren't meaning to respond to me. But the thread is talking strictly about the medical aspect and not political or economics.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:51 pm to Methuselah
Abject failure IMO. My hospital lost 30 million last month. In an effort to prevent our ICU's from being overwhelmed we will be likely bankrupting a large amount of smaller hospitals across the country. Not to mention the rest of the economy. and the kicker is this likely would not have been that much different if we hadn't have shut things down (see Sweden)
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