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re: Arkansas teen killed by deputy
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:27 pm to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:27 pm to GEAUXmedic
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You continue to prove you have no winning argument on this by name calling and innuendo.
Nah. I just think you're a moron and there is no point in arguing with you.
Again, you equated a toaster to an automobile and a firearm. Again, you stated openly that you are incapable of understanding why we would have vehicle registration and why it would be necessary. You went out of your way to prove how big of an idiot you are.
Here's a tip, when Peej has a more level head than you, it is time to take a break.
And, Mingo put together a more coherent and logical argument than you did. Think about that.
And again....you started the entire thing off with a disingenuous bullshite thread with only a fraction of the pertinent information. It was so bad that it got anchored. It also got me my first ever "Top Reply" from the mods, whatever that is.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 8:31 pm
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Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:31 pm to rmnldr
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Police around the country are running out of allies. Your post sums up what needs to happen. The whole practice of policing should be as regulated as the medical field.
I agree. I think you should sign up and lead by example.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:33 pm to troyt37
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If you are talking about this particular situation, they were leaving a closed business, in the wee hours of the morning. So, doing exactly what the police are supposed to do.
thats very very soft. was there any reason to believe a break in or robbery was being committed? merely leaving a place outside of business hours is not reason enough for a stop imo.
plenty of people own businesses and are free to come and go as they please. Often owners/employees will be in and out outside of business hours. seems at minimum highly over zealous policing.
Now idk what happened afterwards that may justify the situation or not but muh they were leaving a place while its dark is some real bootlicker shite.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:36 pm to pioneerbasketball
smart using the photo for context. a lot more “police have too much power” replies than normal. wonder why
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:42 pm to NorthTxLSU
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smart using the photo for context. a lot more “police have too much power” replies than normal. wonder why
I feel bad for you that you look at everything through that lens. Thankfully the vast majority of us actually read the stories and such. But hey, you usually find what you're trying to find.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:43 pm to AMS
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thats very very soft. was there any reason to believe a break in or robbery was being committed? merely leaving a place outside of business hours is not reason enough for a stop imo.
Of course it is. Use your brain for just a second. A cop sees a vehicle leaving a closed business at 1 or 2 in the morning, and he’s supposed to just say, “well of course, Billy Bob had that transmission problem, and he and Cooter were fixing it in the garage. I’ll just whistle on by.”
What does he then tell the police chief when he gets off the phone with the business owner, telling him he had 10K worth of tools stolen last night? That he thought it was Billy Bob and Cooter fixing Billy Bob’s transmission, so he let them walk at 2 in the morning? Get real.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:45 pm to AMS
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thats very very soft. was there any reason to believe a break in or robbery was being committed? merely leaving a place outside of business hours is not reason enough for a stop imo.
Turn around in a parking lot and some here think that is enough for the police to chase you down.
Here's a quote from the sheriff;
Sheriff John Staley met with protesters for the third night in a row and said all questions need to be directed towards ASP.
“I’m more transparent than any Sheriff you’re going to meet. I promise you,” said Sheriff John Staley.
Typical cover their arse mode.
Local news link
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:45 pm to calcotron
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I feel bad for you that you look at everything through that lens. Thankfully the vast majority of us actually read the stories and such. But hey, you usually find what you're trying to find.
this whole board looks at everything through “that lense” so i really don’t know what you’re trying to imply
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:46 pm to troyt37
Wait...how can a cop just shoot someone without cause? A civilian can’t use the argument that they “thought” someone was going for a weapon so they killed them as a defense. As a Marine, I’ve personally been in “shoot or don’t shoot” situations. Decisions have consequences. Using deadly force is a last resort, and you’d best hope you can justify using it after the fact. This cop made a horrible decision. He should pay by spending the rest of his life behind bars. Period.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:49 pm to BuckyCheese
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Turn around in a parking lot and some here think that is enough for the police to chase you down.
very sad that these folks like troy think that is exactly what cops are supposed to do.
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Here's a quote from the sheriff;
Sheriff John Staley met with protesters for the third night in a row and said all questions need to be directed towards ASP.
“I’m more transparent than any Sheriff you’re going to meet. I promise you,” said Sheriff John Staley.
Im 100% transparent, but will not be taking questions. shameful.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:50 pm to troyt37
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Sounds like you are talkin out your arse, and want an argument to me. I never said it would be my first reaction,
Go back and read your post. That is exactly how it reads.
btw Billy Badass, I've had a cop pull his gun on me. In my own driveway. Know why? He thought I was the guy they had a warrant for due to skipping court for a traffic violation. We have the same color truck. He couldn't be bothered to run the plates and actually argued, after he holstered his gun, that I was driving the guys truck.
Cops like him, and people that think like you do, have no business being in law enforcement.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:52 pm to salty1
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A civilian can’t use the argument that they “thought” someone was going for a weapon so they killed them as a defense.
Bingo
Billy Badass claims he would do the same however. Would be lining up a really good lawyer if I was him.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:54 pm to salty1
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This cop made a horrible decision. He should pay by spending the rest of his life behind bars. Period.
You may be absolutely right, but there is absolutely no way you can possibly know that at this point. I seriously doubt this cop just pulled his gun and shot this kid without saying anything. If so, he deserves what he gets. But if he was giving commands, telling the kid to get back in the car, telling him not to reach, etc, and his commands were being ignored, at some point you have to assume there’s a reason for this and defend yourself.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:57 pm to troyt37
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Of course it is. Use your brain for just a second. A cop sees a vehicle leaving a closed business at 1 or 2 in the morning
very very soft. there is nothing illegal about leaving a closed business even at weird hours. many employees/owners leave businesses after hours.
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What does he then tell the police chief when he gets off the phone with the business owner, telling him he had 10K worth of tools stolen last night? That he thought it was Billy Bob and Cooter fixing Billy Bob’s transmission, so he let them walk at 2 in the morning? Get real.
now if he saw them loading up shite that would be different, but even you said he just saw them leaving. but you like the taste of boots so I don't expect much high level thought from you.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:57 pm to troyt37
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You may be absolutely right, but there is absolutely no way you can possibly know that at this point. I seriously doubt this cop just pulled his gun and shot this kid without saying anything. If so, he deserves what he gets. But if he was giving commands, telling the kid to get back in the car, telling him not to reach, etc, and his commands were being ignored, at some point you have to assume there’s a reason for this and defend yourself.
Did the kid have a weapon on him or anywhere near him? The answer appears to “No”. That being the case, the cop is a murderer and should be severely punished.
ETA: If this was my 17 year old son, the cop would have already been punished.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Again, you equated a toaster to an automobile and a firearm.
Explain why I should have to register my firearm and vehicle, but not my toaster, or my power drill. While we’re at it, let’s just register everything we own so the govt can take it away if we don’t comply. It’s all about power and money. Period.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:00 pm to salty1
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As a Marine, I’ve personally been in “shoot or don’t shoot” situations. Decisions have consequences. Using deadly force is a last resort, and you’d best hope you can justify using it after the fact.
You guys are held to a higher standard than our police, while operating in a war zone.
Insane.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:00 pm to troyt37
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You may be absolutely right, but there is absolutely no way you can possibly know that at this point.
If the cop can make uninformed split second decisions, so can we.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:03 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Get rid of qualified immunity
That opens up every officer to a civil suit for a speeding ticket
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:05 pm to geauxfortwo
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That opens up every officer to a civil suit for a speeding ticket
Good, they should have to defend it. No more bullshite tickets.
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