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re: Arkansas teen killed by deputy

Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14682 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:07 pm to
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Did the kid have a weapon on him or anywhere near him? The answer appears to “No”. That being the case, the cop is a murderer and should be severely punished.

ETA: If this was my 17 year old son, the cop would have already been punished.


Right, because we all know cops have X-ray and night vision, so they can see though the body of a truck and through the dark, at both people at once (gecko vision too) so that no honest mistakes can possibly be made. I mean it is entirely too much to expect the totally innocent people being stopped to not reach around for shite and make movements at the worst possible moment. Cops should just use their superpowers so they know the intent of every person in every encounter, so they don’t get killed. Wonder why so many of them get killed?
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
2009 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Good, they should have to defend it. No more bullshite tickets.


You should get a police officers view on this subject.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

Explain why I should have to register my firearm and vehicle, but not my toaster, or my power drill. While we’re at it, let’s just register everything we own so the govt can take it away if we don’t comply. It’s all about power and money. Period.

It has been explained to you repeatedly by multiple people. My explaining it again to you won't change the fact that you have the IQ of a grapefruit and/or you have no desire to admit that you are wrong and you just believe you are above laws and that they shouldn't apply to you if you don't like them. It is a pointless endeavor and one that will lead to you claiming whatever victory you want to claim because I, yet again, call you a moron.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Good, they should have to defend it. No more bullshite tickets.

Yep.





Moron.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

That opens up every officer to a civil suit for a speeding ticket



quote:

If you intentionally or even mistakenly injure someone or damage someone's property, you could end up being responsible for paying for the other person's losses. This is known as "civil liability."


would have to be insanely egregious enforcement of a speeding ticket to cause damage/harm. why shouldn't they be held liable like everyone else if they are causing wrongful damage?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

You should get a police officers view on this subject.



doctors dont want to get sued for malpractice or get civil suits either. Real big brain take that a party being held accountable wouldn't appreciate being held accountable.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:14 pm to
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It has been explained to you repeatedly by multiple people. My explaining it again to you won't change the fact that you have the IQ of a grapefruit and/or you have no desire to admit that you are wrong and you just believe you are above laws and that they shouldn't apply to you if you don't like them. It is a pointless endeavor and one that will lead to you claiming whatever victory you want to claim because I, yet again, call you a moron.


But it hasn’t. Nobody came up with an actual answer, just repeated smooth brain name calling, like you are doing now.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:17 pm to
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But it hasn’t. Nobody came up with an actual answer, just repeated smooth brain name calling, like you are doing now.

They did. You just weren't interested in reading it, or you ignored it. Go back, dig up your anchored thread, and read. You'll find the answer.

And I'm the one who said smooth brain in that thread, please give me credit.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 9:18 pm
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5167 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:17 pm to
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Right, because we all know cops have X-ray and night vision, so they can see though the body of a truck and through the dark, at both people at once (gecko vision too) so that no honest mistakes can possibly be made. I mean it is entirely too much to expect the totally innocent people being stopped to not reach around for shite and make movements at the worst possible moment. Cops should just use their superpowers so they know the intent of every person in every encounter, so they don’t get killed. Wonder why so many of them get killed?


Please tell me you’re not a cop. Cops and military are held, and should be held, to a higher standard. Sometimes that higher standard means you get shot at, or shot, first. It is what it is. Cops should not be little bitches and walk around scared that everyone is out to shoot them. Neither cops nor military can “shoot first and ask questions later”. It’ doesn’t work that way. The cop has an obligation to ensure he’s taking a good shot. If not, the expectation should be that the cop is held accountable for his actions. Why is that so difficult for you to comprehend?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65799 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:19 pm to
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Vice did an article today.


This is what you think of when someone mentions "nationwide news sources?"
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:30 pm to
In 2019 89 cops died in the line of duty. 41 in accidents.
15 died as a result of investigative or law enforcement activities
6 were conducting traffic violation stops
4 were performing investigative activities
2 were drug-related matters
2 were interacting with wanted persons
1 was investigating suspicious person or circumstance
9 were involved in tactical situations
3 were barricaded/hostage situations
3 were serving, or attempting to serve, search warrants
2 were serving, or attempting to serve, arrest warrants
1 was reported in the category titled “other tactical situation”
5 were involved in unprovoked attacks
4 were responding to crimes in progress
2 were robberies
1 was larceny-theft
1 was reported in the category titled “other crime against property”
3 were involved in arrest situations and were attempting to restrain/control/handcuff the offender(s) during the arrest situations
3 were assisting other law enforcement officers
2 with vehicular pursuits
1 with foot pursuit
3 were responding to disorders or disturbances
2 were responding to disturbances (disorderly subjects, fights, etc.)
1 was responding to a domestic violence call
3 were involved in vehicular pursuits
2 were ambushed (entrapment/premeditation)
1 was serving, or attempting to serve, a court order (eviction notice, subpoena, etc.).


In 2019, there were 697,195 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States.

As a cop, you have a .006% chance of being killed in the line of duty.

There are roughly 20 million traffic stops per year.

You have a .00003% chance of being killed on a traffic stop.

You have a higher chance of being struck by a meteorite.


Data:
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Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:30 pm to
lots of hostility in this thread today

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:31 pm to
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lots of hostility in this thread today

My hostility toward Medic, and only Medic, has nothing at all to do with this thread.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53516 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:33 pm to
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My hostility toward Medic, and only Medic, has nothing at all to do with this thread.


And it should have nothing to do with any thread. Instead of debating, you resort to hostility and theatrics. You and BLM have more in common than you think.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:34 pm to
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And it should have nothing to do with any thread. Instead of debating, you resort to hostility and theatrics. You and BLM have more in common than you think.


Again, I along with several others provided plenty of facts and debate to your thread. You just didn't like it and refused any logic and reason that anyone gave.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Again, I along with several others provided plenty of facts and debate to your thread.


You can say there were facts and debate to my point on registration, but there weren’t. Nobody touched that.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

In 2019, there were 697,195 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States.

As a cop, you have a .006% chance of being killed in the line of duty.

There are roughly 20 million traffic stops per year.

You have a .00003% chance of being killed on a traffic stop.

You have a higher chance of being struck by a meteorite.


I have only one upvote to give.

Railroad conductor is a more dangerous job than being a cop.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Nobody touched that.

They most certainly did.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53516 posts
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:47 pm to
GEAIXmedic just likes to hear himself talk
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