re: Arguably the greatest speech in American history was delivered 160 years ago today...

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Uh, yes. I don’t respect them, nor do I respect the Confederacy

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They aren’t alive anymore. You know that right? Your hot takes are about long dead people. I know you are trying to just rule people up but your tales are no smarter than the “south shoulda won” takes. It’s equally low intelligence.

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and then the same group led a campaign of terror against its newly freed black population for a century.

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Democrats have successfully destroyed the black community, I agree. Are you as outwardly spoken about the American left, actual living people, as you are people who died and have no capacity to care about your opinions? Or are you only brave enough to spout off on people that are already dead?

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No, we whipped that arse.

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Cool, so you only like “winners”? What about the poor Cambodian citizens that died under the boot under Pol Pot? Or the Jews that died in the holocaust? Tough shite just a bunch of losers, is that your take?

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Seems like you shouldn’t respect the Confederate dead either.

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I don’t respect nor disrespect the confederates. They are dead now, they should be at peace.

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You would have gotten a massive boner lynching freed black slaves if you lived in 1866. You’d be giddy.

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So I bring up the left and democrats and then you state this angry childish drivel? So now we know who you are. Just some woke child who can’t take anyone criticizing their incredibly simple and stupid takes. And because your low intelligence is challenged you then try to assume I’m the monster because I question your stupid take? Please state at any point my support of slaverry. You can’t. But you lash out because your stupid take on page 1 was challenged and you can’t defend it. How old are you?

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The Confederates are not the victims. They explicitly fought for an institution that was far worse than what the Union did to them.

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So you wish all confederates were hanged? Even the citizens? Justify your blood lust? I asked you many times, who specifically did you want killed? You state the confederates, who does that comprise of? The entire habitants of the confederate south?

Explain what happens if Lincoln decided to massacre the entirety of the south. What is the cause and effect?

PS, you haven’t thought this out and everyone knows it. You post stupid shite like in this thread because you hope your overly simplistic and low IQ takes May bring out all the hidden pro-slavery toothless rednecks. What you haven’t realized is your idiotic tales are the same low IQ ramblings as those you were hoping to bait. You don’t realize you are the same inbred toothless redneck that you think lurks behind every door in the present day south.

Bobby OG Johnson

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anyone who thinks that the Civil War was solely due to slavery

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crazy4lsu

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How many times is slavery mentioned in South Carolina's Articles of Secession?

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You are the remedial frick that can't read

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He can read. Now, comprehending what he read is something else.

What a great man! And what a great speech!

And the poster above was right to emphasize JFK's speech for MLK. Also, Reagan's "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear down this wall." speech.

I've never read the Citizenship in a Republic speech by Theodor Roosevelt, but the passage in that speech, know as The Man in the Arena, is the greatest passage from a US President's speech.

frick that tyrant

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The entire leadership for one, both civilian and military, and then I would have liked heavy reprisals against those Southerners who led paramilitary groups in the South during the Reconstruction era, members of the Redeemers, among others. Nothing of consequence would have been lost either, as the Confederate veterans who then participated in reprisals against African-Americans who were participating in the political process forfeited the goodwill shown to them by Lincoln and Johnson and were not deserving of any of it.

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Please quote where I have either stated or implied this.

Because I never have. It is incredibly incendiary to make remarks and lie about a person like this without any proof.

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You support the Confederacy. That is all the proof I need.

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I want people like you to keep believing this

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Brother, it doesn't require any belief. You aren't going to do anything.

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Why not?

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I can quote several instances from US history where citizens turned upon one another, but what would that prove?

Look, no person in human history has lived in the world of their own design. Human relations is too chaotic, and it is next to impossible to control other human beings. You don't seem to grasp the first thing about geopolitics, which doesn't portend good things for your dream.

I'll call your alleged best speech and raise you:

Theodore Roosevelt

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Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, and North Carolina all joined the Confederacy due to the overreach of the federal government, not because they supported slavery.

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Virginia:

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and the Federal Government having perverted said powers, not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slaveholding States.

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Hmm…

Arkansas:

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Since the Republican party opposed the extension of slavery, some Southern leaders declared that if Lincoln were elected the South should secede and become an independent nation.

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Hmm…

Also hilariously, from later in the document:

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The Civil War began on April 12, 1861, when Confederate guns opened fire on Fort Sumter, in the harbor at Charleston, South Carolina. When President Lincoln asked Arkansas to provide a regiment of troops to force the seceded states back into the Union Governor Rector refused.

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What great irony. It was well within Federal purview to fight insurrections, and yet in this case it was overreach? Hmm…

East Tennessee was kept in the Confederacy by the force of martial law as well. Odd that that particular overreach isn’t mentioned by you lot who are so obsessed with Federal overreach, which makes no sense, since the language of the Constitution in Section 8 clearly allowed for Congress the ability to put down insurrections.

Unilateral secessions will always lead to violence, or at the very minimum, the threat of violence. That is a fact you won’t ever seem to grasp. You should read more about the role of the social democrats in Sweden in preventing a war with Norway during the 1905 crisis.

Look, the Confederacy themselves mention slavery an awful lot to be all that concerned with muh Federal overreach. Their concern stemmed primarily from the possibility that Lincoln would do away with the institution itself. You morons always leave out that part when discussing the Federal overreach.

Again, you just want to treat minorities as badly as your forefathers treated them during Jim Crow. For you that was utopia. Sad!