re: Arguably the greatest speech in American history was delivered 160 years ago today...

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It was a troll?

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As in, not indicative of my actual position, yes. But I do think being harder on Confederates would have prevented some post-CW violence as it related to freedmen trying to vote. Some of those stories are absolutely abhorrent and the more I read them, the less I'm inclined to believe that being circumspect about reintegrating those who fought against the Union was the best course of action.

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As in, not indicative of my actual position, yes. But I do think being harder on Confederates would have prevented some post-CW violence as it related to freedmen trying to vote

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OK. This would have been better. I understand.

The NPC is so strong with you.

I know you can't imagine it, but some people actually choose not to have children. You seem really hung up about this for some reason. Makes me wonder if daddy isn't starting to have some regrets.

Guess we've reached the part where you just blatantly copy whatever I say and try to twist it into an insult.

You are just so unimaginative.

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yes. that’s what’s happening here.

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I have a romantic view of Federalism in my head which is what this country was founded upon when delegates of the States signed the Constitution.

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I mean, the tension between federalism, devolution, and stronger central governmental structures was present at the beginning of the Republic. All those viewpoints were represented among the founders, although I would argue that the fact that the Articles of Confederation failed meant that those who wanted a stronger central government won out. Federalism is a solution for certain problems, but the trend of governments everywhere is to centralize. And there are no downsides for governments to continue to centralize.

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You're almost understanding what individual sovereignty is.

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Which is a different term than secession.

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How do you think Henry Clay's American System was funded? Construction of the Erie Canal, National Road, etc were Federally funded. The Tariff of 1828 was to further finance these and more projects.

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But one of the explicit purposes of that system was to develop profitable markets for agriculture, which required a degree of centralization. I don't know if we could even get the numbers, but I'm skeptical of the suggestion that the South paid excessively for that system, given that the argument at the time (I believe) was that each region would benefit from the interconnectedness between regions.

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cite the part of the Constitution that states who seceded broke that would have been grounds for such action?

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There’s a lot of laws that aren’t specifically outlined in the US Constitution

just keep overlooking me calling out your personal failures, it comes natural at this point for you i assume. eeesh

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And ALL must coincide and be supported by the Constitution which is the only thing at play here.

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The rebels violated the Insurrection Act when they attacked Ft Sumter, leading to the military deployment.

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Organized political violence with the aim of suppressing certain segments of society is always going to lead to terrible outcomes.

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this is where you call me a racist, again.