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re: Are you thinking of leaving Louisiana for good?

Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:35 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:35 am to
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didnt you say this 10 years ago?

no i almost moved to nola 12 years ago after law school

moved home b/c of the impending 2008 crash. i needed a job and this was the only area i knew i had a job 100%

couldn't afford not to have a job with that shite storm brewing. i always thank this site for giving me that heads up b/c my life would be much different had i not been given the secret information of the impending crash
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:37 am to
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But I when people act like Houston or Dallas are these flawless Meccas. It’s fricking hilarious


those people generally are not even talking about or live in Houston or Dallas either

they mean the burbs, most likely
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:37 am to
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If you want change, it comes from within each and every person not happy with current conditions.

when those happy with the current conditions out-vote you, then what do you do?

that's where LA is headed. it's already there in many areas

again, we have a DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR. don't act like it's some insane projection. we are historically a Democrat state, for similar reasons. many "republican" leaders were Democrats not that long ago
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:37 am to
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Stay and fight or run from problem


this is going to take 2 or 3 generations to "fix"

so hard for me to a fault a guy wanting to find an area with less longstanding issues that will never be addressed completely in his lifetime
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:39 am to
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when people act like Houston or Dallas are these flawless Meccas. It’s fricking hilarious

i'm not saying anywhere is a "Mecca" or without problems

but it doesn't take much to get to an area with more future potential or fewer problems than LA. we really only have one competition, state-wise (MS) and that competition seems to be making strides in the opposite direction

if you can get to an area with real economic future potential, public schools that are elite, and low crime, then you're doing better than like 95% of LA
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40220 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:39 am to
We didn't rebuild after Katrina. We moved to Texas, bought a house, found new jobs.

I'm glad we did it. I don't know if my emotions, and certainly not my wife's emotions, would have been able to handle all the depression amid rebuilding.

6 years later and 2 kids later, we realized that being close to family was the most important thing.

So that's why we "put up with it". If we had more family out of state close to us, we probably would have stayed.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31794 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:40 am to
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Like the IQ of customer service reps at places like Target and restaurants and fast food. They can’t even put a sentence together

I just feel bad for the future of Louisiana. I’ll always have a special place for it


This is definitely true. I just moved to Houston and the dumbest Mexican seems to be smarter than the dumbest Louisiana resident. I have had a few experiences with rude people here in customer service, but it's just different than the low IQ or low expectation having person in LA. My sample size is small, only been here 2.5 months, but I don't miss the absolute rude and dumb as brick idiots that I ran into much more often in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:40 am to
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this is going to take 2 or 3 generations to "fix"

so hard for me to a fault a guy wanting to find an area with less longstanding issues that will never be addressed completely in his lifetime

yeah i tried to make that point earlier

people who are saying you need to "stay and fix" LA. in the best scenario, your GRANDCHILDREN may see that bright future

so you're willingly sacrificing your children (possibly their children, too, if the best case doesn't happen), to "save" LA

think of it that way and you have to really evaluate why you're so invested in saving LA
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:41 am to
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Not true. There are places out there that don’t have to worry about natural disasters that would have any serious impact on your home. You just have to do your research.


Most of NV and AZ are definitely much lower on natural disasters scale than many other places. The biggest natural drawback here is that we don't have much in the way of Fall. The closest thing that Vegas gets to foliage is changing the colors on the neon signs.

I left LA 15 years ago. I still go back now and then and enjoy my visits. The only drawback is that each time when I go back, it takes me less time to look around and realize why I left.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:41 am to
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if you can get to an area with real economic future potential, public schools that are elite, and low crime, then you're doing better than like 95% of LA


you say that we have to pay a premium to have this in LA, but where exactly do you get this and not have to pay a premium?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:43 am to
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you say that we have to pay a premium to have this in LA, but where exactly do you get this and not have to pay a premium?

in LA you pay a premium for the 49th or 50th state

also, i'm pretty sure that Houston burbs have lower $/square feet housing options than the Northshore, while similar jobs make more money. so yeah you eat the same time costs but you make more and housing costs are lower. so it's relative

i don't that many people who argue they can make more money in similar jobs in LA, other than personal injury attorneys

but, more importantly, you have real advancement potential AND fewer societal pathologies around you every day
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:43 am to
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they mean the burbs, most likely

I do get a kick out of how often inner city schools in Louisiana get compared on here to some suburban schools in other states. At least compare apples to apples.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103507 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:45 am to
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you say that we have to pay a premium to have this in LA, but where exactly do you get this and not have to pay a premium?


As soon as you find a place like this, it turns into a hot spot and then you have to pay a premium.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:45 am to
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To each their own, but anyone claiming definitively that some place is so much better is based on opinion.


Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:46 am to
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in LA you pay a premium for the 49th or 50th state


but our premium is dirt cheap compared to higher ranked states

quote:

also, i'm pretty sure that Houston burbs have lower $/square feet housing options than the Northshore, while similar jobs make more money. so yeah you eat the same time costs but you make more and housing costs are lower. so it's relative


gotta factor in property taxes here too

also I find this kinda hard to believe if we are comparing equal values here

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:49 am to
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gotta factor in property taxes here too

And sales tax and income tax in LA

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also I find this kinda hard to believe if we are comparing equal values here

I believe it's been done on this site before in detail

Houston burbs may be the outlier
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:50 am to
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Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:51 am to
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Family is what keeps most people here so no I don’t think many people will leave due to a storm.


Literally the only thing that’s kept me here.

That and I’m not sure what I’d do for a job if I left. Not getting paid what I am now.
Posted by CaliTiger83
California
Member since Aug 2012
170 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:51 am to
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a desk job in Nebraska several times already, and I'm likely going to take it


You should take a weeks vacation in winter, say the January, before you make the permanent decision to move there. Make sure to take the wife an kids...
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 8:57 am to
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i don't that many people who argue they can make more money in similar jobs in LA, other than personal injury attorneys

I'm paid around the national average in my field based on my years of experience. Granted, the number of opportunities here are fewer than a larger market. The problem is, I don't want to live in a larger market
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