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re: Are you looking forward to getting a full electric vehicle?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:45 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:45 am to fightin tigers
Probably, but there will be combustion powered vehicles for a long time to come for racing and performance enthusiasts that don't want silent driving experience.
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:47 am to chinese58
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Not looking forward to all of these plant baws posting about looking for jobs, going back to school, and wives leaving them. Will miss the "Took my PE test today!" threads.
Still gonna need plant baws at electric generation facilities as well as in the transmission and distribution of that electricity. Having your professional engineering license is beneficial there as well.
You are not getting rid of engineers by replacing gas cars with electric.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:48 am to Reservoir dawg
I agree. Formula 1 is already preparing to do away with their combustion engines. I figure most top level racing will follow.
There will always be shade tree mechanics piecing stuff together.
Racing with the torque of an electric motor will be unmatched.
There will always be shade tree mechanics piecing stuff together.
Racing with the torque of an electric motor will be unmatched.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:32 am to fightin tigers
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I agree. Formula 1 is already preparing to do away with their combustion engines. I figure most top level racing will follow.
I can't see NASCAR going this route.
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There will always be shade tree mechanics piecing stuff together.
Not only that, combustion vehicles would be in such huge demand for collectors in the distant future. I could see some manufacturers producing them out of strong demand.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:34 am to Obtuse1
quote:Didn't know that, tho it does look like a 2 door with the opposing handles anyway.
4 door Porsches built have the engine in the front.
Early/mid 90s 911 is one of my dream cars.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:41 am to lsu xman
Already have one. Rimac concept one
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:41 am to porkrind
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Realistically how many laps can you make in a electric car? Running them balls out like you would at a track would discharge the battery pretty damn quick right?
I see the advantages but all that power/torque would quickly fade under track conditions. I know a guy that drag races a Tesla and it is crazy fast off the line but he cannot run it over and over again all night like most of the guys at the track.
First, a Telsa should be able to hot lap all night on a single charge and actually put in far more laps than the average drag car. Heat soak will kill a IC drag car's times pretty quickly when you are hot lapping even icing them down between runs.
The pure electric road track cars (not many now and are most in the supercar plus performance and price range) get about 50 miles at full blast with a professional driver. They also have swappable batteries. An amateur would get more mileage but also keep in mind track days almost always are run in 20 minute sessions so with time between sessions for swapping or charging a weekend warrior can run all day or weekend with no issues even with today's tech.
To give you an idea of electric performance the NIO NP9 has 1360 hp and 1092 pound-feet. The fastest time for a production car around The Nordschleife is 6:47.3 done by the new 911 GT2RS and the NP9 did it in 6:45.9.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:52 am to cattus
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Didn't know that, tho it does look like a 2 door with the opposing handles anyway.
Early/mid 90s 911 is one of my dream cars.
An added bit of trivia, Porche builds 5 models: 718 (Boxster/Cayman), 911, Panamera, Cayenne and Macan. Only the 911 is a rear engine car, the 718 is mid-engine and the rest are front engine.
My biggest car regret is trading my '98 993 911 Turbo in 2004. The prices of the 993s (1994-1998) have SOARED. It's replacement the 996 is the least loved of all the 911s. I took a bath on the 996 I traded it for and could have MADE money keeping the 993.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:12 pm to Reservoir dawg
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Probably, but there will be combustion powered vehicles for a long time to come for racing and performance enthusiasts that don't want silent driving experience.
Tracks will be the last bastion of IC cars. Just like I occasionally pass a 60's era British roadster on the track.
Pro racing will be interesting, I think road track cars will move to electric fairly quickly as full electrics become fully feasible. Hybrids are dominating the top formulas now. Nascar will probably be the last domino to fall. Even in 2018 they still have a large displacement, NA, OHV engine as the formula. While they are cutting edge for this type of engine they are old school in basic design. It is a series that is very rooted in nostalgia.
IC cars will be around and loved for quite a while but when the first generations that have only seen electric cars on track mature the desire for them will drop off significantly.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:19 pm to Obtuse1
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First, a Telsa should be able to hot lap all night on a single charge and actually put in far more laps than the average drag car. Heat soak will kill a IC drag car's times pretty quickly when you are hot lapping even icing them down between runs.
The cars running in the Teslas class shouldn't have heat soak issues. I run the 1/4 and get right back in line to run again. Our rural track doesn't have a charging station given that only one Tesla shows up. My friend drives his to the track same as most people. If he runs all night he wouldn't have enough juice for after he leaves the track. I'm just saying its still nice to never have to worry about such things. Just put in more dinosaur bones and go.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:24 pm to lsu xman
I like to drive cross country so no
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:23 pm to fightin tigers
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Electricity will become even cheaper as well. Technology is making the price of electricty drop, quickly.
I am a senior and I have lived a pretty long time. I have yet to see electricity go down, especially where foreign investors have bought American power plants. At least 30 years ago your state agencies kept the cost in check but lately they seem to give up the fight far to easily.
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Better insulation and tapping the heat dissipation from the battery could help.
Are you saying batteries throw off more heat than combustion? I am OK with electricity for most things but I like gas for cooking and heating. It just seems to work better.
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Are you saying in a household they would buy two cars only to use one at a time?
Yes, and no. 30 years ago, a household may have been 2 parents, 3 kids, and 2 pets. Seems many households today are single with multiple partners in intervals. So the "single" households are becoming the norm. Does a single person need the added cost of multiple vehicles? It is like they are trying to get us to give up single vehicles for mass transit but have built cities out and not up which necessitates more cars. Big part of this is developers want cheaper land (more profit) than infill and redevelopment.
It makes sense if the "city" car was more like a covered motorcycle at about 12K cost and 1/2 space of traditional car. Then you could have a 4 door sedan or SUV for distance and size needs. Problem is the small micro cars I looked at a few years ago cost as much as a full sized car. Bigger problem is wrecks between micro cars and SUV's will probably not end well for the person in the micro.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:20 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:Man, I'd say having to go to the gas station and actually paying for gas is wayyy more of a pain in the arse then just plugging it in in your garage.
Driven a Tesla, it’s nice but forgetting to plug that thing in is a lot more likely than running out of gas. Just seems like a pain in the arse until they make some wireless charging pad like they have for phones now you could have as the floor of your garage
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