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re: Are you Car A or Car B in this scenario?

Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:16 pm to
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and one nimrod who feels compelled to let them all in ahead of him.


That's also dumb, and it's just as bad as people blocking the merging lane. Alternate lanes to keep traffic moving efficiently.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35632 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:17 pm to
during my research into the zipper merge, i stumbled upon this michigan news article, with video, showing someone blocking traffic by driving in both lanes.


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Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:33 pm to
I’ve always been A and I also block those people who crowd the merge point. I thought a lesbian was going to beat my arse once because I wouldn’t let her in.

“Take turns, you a-hole,” she shouted.

“Take a dick up the arse,” I responded.

Kentucky has a zipper merge law but she seemed entitled so…
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97635 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:36 pm to
I just go, I’ve yet to encounter someone willing to run into me to prevent me from merging. They’d have to be a psychopath
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8812 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:40 pm to
this is classic on highway 61 near the one lane for construction in St Franny, going toward or away from BR.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:00 pm to
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Car B is doing what's called a zipper merge and it's how it's supposed to work to get everyone through in the quickest manner possible.



The problem is car b never does it right. They go up to the front and come to a complete stop forcing everyone in line to come to a complete stop. Car b is the reason it gets jammed up.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20378 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:12 pm to
I'm car B but I am in the left lane driving at the same speed as the opening. I merge in at the last minute but prevent car A cocksuckers from passing everyone because their time is more important than everyone else.
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:26 pm to
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The problem is car b never does it right. They go up to the front and come to a complete stop forcing everyone in line to come to a complete stop. Car b is the reason it gets jammed up.

You people are impervious to information

And sheesh, let's not pretend car A doesn't come to a complete fricking stop either.

Sheesh
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:29 pm to
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That's not how it works IRL. You have 40 or 50 cars who were already in the right lane when the traffic first started bottlenecking and don't have anywhere to go, 15 or 20 latecomers in the left lane, all intent on jumping the line, and one nimrod who feels compelled to let them all in ahead of him.

You're an idiot

Everything above applies to where car A drops in also. Everyone behind that point was there before car A.

If you fricktards were correct, then car A is wrong too. There should be another point 1000m back. No. Wait, that would still have them jumping. There should be ANOTHER point 1000m back from that!!!

frick it. They should just close the entire left lane as far back is take to where the lane began in the first place

THEN, you'd have perfect "flow" with no on merging!!!

#youpeopleareidiots
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:31 pm to
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Except it’s car A utilizing it.

Zipper merging doesn’t involve being so far forward that you have to stop, and oncoming traffic needs to pause to let you in.
Thank you! Zipper merging is quite possibly the least understood concept in America. All one has to do is realize there is a single line moving through a pinch point. Everyone benefits if cars do not slow at that point. The so called zipper mergers require the moving line to stop. Terrible idea.
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:31 pm to
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While Zipper Merging in efficient and ideal, it never works like that because B's typically speed up to that point, then slam on their breaks, disrupting the traffic speed in both lanes and causing problems.

Car A drives up to a point they think they can get in........come to a complete fricking stop............and beg to be let in.

Meanwhile, the same tards who get upset with car B are also upset with car A because even he still "cut" in front of other cars that were already in the non closed lane and you people can't have that!!!!!
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:32 pm to
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The problem is car b never does it right. They go up to the front and come to a complete stop forcing everyone in line to come to a complete stop. Car b is the reason it gets jammed up.


If all the idiot car A people did what car B is doing, everyone would be merging at the same point. Car B could not be going too fast if it is also stuck behind Car A up to the merge point. The cars in the other lane would learn that everyone is merging at the merge point and would get accustomed to letting people in there. Car A doing it early makes absolutely no sense except making two merge points to make everything slower.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Wasting Time
You really don't understand this
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Thank you! Zipper merging is quite possibly the least understood concept in America. All one has to do is realize there is a single line moving through a pinch point. Everyone benefits if cars do not slow at that point. The so called zipper mergers require the moving line to stop. Terrible idea.

You know as well as I do that the scenario we are talking about, ALL of the traffic in both lanes is doing like 2 mph and the people in the non closed lane are being a bunch of bitches because car B does the right thing. Note, the non close lane is just as bitch at car A unless he drops in half a fricking mile before the closure.

And, if THAT shite makes sense, then hell, why not drop in a mile ahead?

2 miles? I mean, ya know. Since it's "more efficient" to leave a shite ton of road unoccupied.

Ya bunch of dunces
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:34 pm to
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You really don't understand this


False
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Thank you! Zipper merging is quite possibly the least understood concept in America
Says the guy who has never seen any depictions of a correct zipper merge apparently
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16484 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:35 pm to
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1) The zipper merge was meant for when two lanes merge into one (think of a 4 lane highway going down to a two lane highway), not when one lane is closed for construction / blockage and you actually have to get all the way over.


You don't get all the way over when a highway goes from 4 lanes to 2? Do you just keep on driving on the wrong side of the yellow line?
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:37 pm to
quote:


1) The zipper merge was meant for when two lanes merge into one (think of a 4 lane highway going down to a two lane highway), not when one lane is closed for construction / blockage

Ya mean, like, when 2 lanes are merged into 1?

Your sentence is literally, "the zipper merge is meant for when 2 lanes merge into 1, not when 2 lanes merge into 1"

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

You know as well as I do that the scenario we are talking about, ALL of the traffic in both lanes is doing like 2 mph
Because of people being car B.

Do you really not see the problem with the people in the open lane, at the pinch point, having to stop? BTW, that little animation supporting A isn't even close to what happens in real life.
Posted by Wasting Time
Member since Oct 2021
310 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 4:40 pm to
A lot of people seem to be confusing the depiction in the OP with when traffic is flowing naturally.

If traffic is flowing naturally or relatively naturally, then you want to drop in ideally, with no change in speed whatsoever. So yeah, waiting till the last second then slowing way down makes little sense.

OBVIUSLY, at construction zones, it's damned fricking rare that the above is the case. Typically, when you arrive, everyone is already doing 3 mph.

Side note. You know what's worse than car A or car B?

The frickers in the back up who, I guess because they figure no big deal for them, simply let enormous gaps open up in front of them. It never occurs to them that this has a downstream affect behind them. ESPECIALLY given that there are A LOT of people who do this
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