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re: Are there any confirmed negative impacts of data centers?

Posted on 7/23/26 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 12:54 pm to
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AI is going to decimate the trades shortly as well.


will be a long time before AI can start crawling in attics and diagnose an ac issue or a plumbing issue in a house or an electrical issue.

long long time.


but even so...eventually the country that dominates AI will be able to supply the rest of the world with goods and its citizens will be paid to essentially do nothing. but that is 100 years away anyways
This post was edited on 7/23/26 at 12:56 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 12:58 pm to
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will be a long time before AI can start crawling in attics and diagnose an ac issue or a plumbing issue in a house or an electrical issue.

long long time.



Doubt that. We'll probably have that within the next 15-20 years.

They already do line maintenance in some places using AI and robotics. There are a frickton of companies in the robotics game now. You don't think Elon's robot won't be able to fix a plumbing issue in the near future?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 12:59 pm to
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so pretty much like now



Just worse.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:00 pm to
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They already do line maintenance in some places using AI and robotics. There are a frickton of companies in the robotics game now. You don't think Elon's robot won't be able to fix a plumbing issue in the near future?


not within a couple decades i dont unless the rate at which they advance changes drastically.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:00 pm to
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Just worse.


not really. I think its worse now.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:02 pm to
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not within a couple decades i dont unless the rate at which they advance changes drastically.



What do you mean? Look at robotics expos and competitions from just 2 years ago vs today. If you don't think humanoid robots are coming for trades jobs in the relatively near future, you have no idea what's going on in that space.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:04 pm to
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not really. I think its worse now.


vs when? 5 years ago?
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:08 pm to
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Well yeah, if the community decides they want a project and you don't want to be near it. Move.


I think the issue at hand is communities that DON’T want it, but city councils and county officials frick their voting base and do it anyway.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:14 pm to
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What do you mean? Look at robotics expos and competitions from just 2 years ago vs today. If you don't think humanoid robots are coming for trades jobs in the relatively near future, you have no idea what's going on in that space.


i have i still dont see it. not to mention the license that it takes. that will be fought for a long time.

but sorry it going to be a long arse time before i see a humanoid being able to diagnose problems. the lack of senses is the issue imo
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:14 pm to
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vs when? 5 years ago?


no i think it is worse now than it will be in the future. you have 2-3 checks on things before they go out at a minimum now.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:16 pm to
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i have i still dont see it. not to mention the license that it takes. that will be fought for a long time.

but sorry it going to be a long arse time before i see a humanoid being able to diagnose problems. the lack of senses is the issue imo



I hope you've lent Elon your expertise on this issue. Might be too late as he's already shutdown multiple Tesla production lines in favor of Optimus.

What an idiot!
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:23 pm to
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I hope you've lent Elon your expertise on this issue. Might be too late as he's already shutdown multiple Tesla production lines in favor of Optimus.



production lines are different we have had there for a long time.

im talking being able to crawl under a house and diagnose a problem and fix it. I just think we are a long ways off from that.

if that makes me an idiot so be it

i do think humanoids will handle lots of other things in about a decade or 15 years but I dont see the trades angle for a while

now like welders in a fab shop...yea laser tube cutters and auto welders are coming for a lot of that. I was talking trouble shooting and repair work in the trades and plants.

not to mention humanoids not being intrinsically safe and other vulnerabilities that they have so it will be even longer before they are allowed in to a facility.

IRobot is a long ways away
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:26 pm to
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production lines are different we have had there for a long time.



Yea man you don't really understand what's going on in this space. You don't even know what I'm referencing
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:29 pm to
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but city councils and county officials frick their voting base and do it anyway


But they will vote them right back in.

Which says a lot about their outrage.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:33 pm to
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You don't even know what I'm referencing


you mentioned optimus robot, i assumed that is what you are talking about?

Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:38 pm to
“Move” and “stop whining” are what people say when they cannot defend the actual project.

You have offered no argument about jobs, tax revenue, utility demand, water use, noise, or infrastructure. Just sell your house and shut up.

Very serious contribution from the guy accusing everyone else of kicking their feet.


got any other bumper sticker level advice?
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:40 pm to
Don't act like you are open to being educated on a subject. People have tried on this exact subject and you already know everything about the topic.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:41 pm to
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you mentioned optimus robot, i assumed that is what you are talking about?



I'm talking about the fact that Tesla has discontinued several of its vehicle models in favor of building optimus.

I'm not talking about Optimus being used in production lines of vehicles. I'm talking about production lines of vehicles being discontinued and replaced with production lines producing humanoid robots.
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:49 pm to


That is rich coming from the guy whose entire contribution has been “move” and “stop whining.”

I am the one asking what the local payoff is, what resources are consumed, who pays for the infrastructure, and whether the tax incentives are justified.

All I've gotten is angry responses from people like yourself. Other than being an edge lord, I have no idea what your motivation is on this topic.

You have not “educated” anyone. You have repeated a grade school one liner, then accused the person asking questions of being unwilling to learn.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/23/26 at 1:54 pm to
All of which is easily learned by reading or listening to some podcasts.

You seem pretty good at minimal effort though.
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