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re: Are sprawling suburban apartment complexes a mistake?
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:31 am to goofball
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:31 am to goofball
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Are sprawling suburban apartment complexes a mistake?
Yes, because the whole point of being out of the city in the suburbs is to get away from that kind of stuff.
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:31 am to goofball
It's an interesting question. I am wondering if D.R. Horton-style subdivisions fare any better. I'm thinking of developments that are superficially nice and clean, but are in less desirable areas and constructed using the cheapest of "builder grade" materials.
One answer here might be to make "flat" (vs. townhome / condo) ownership more widespread. People take better care of their own property.
One answer here might be to make "flat" (vs. townhome / condo) ownership more widespread. People take better care of their own property.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:31 am to Kujo
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single family residences only, min 1/2 acre, Should be codified as parish/county law
Wow you’re white.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:32 am to goofball
What's the actual problem? Are people actually homeless because there's no affordable place to live? I haven't seen this anywhere.
There are homes all over the country that are less than $50k (max 250/month mortgage)
I was at a conference where they were creating housing with integrated utilities, furnishings, internet, modern electronics, etc.....for a cost to illegal farm labor of only $250/month. (The rest government subsidized ~1500/unit) I asked if we should stock the frig with caviar too.
It's not an actual problem, more of a perceived problem.
Example:
My sister was laid off and "can't find a job". Well our family owns multiple business locations and we wanted her to work for us....but she is still looking for something she's passionate about...1.5 years later.
Can she not find a job, or Can she not find the job that she wants?
There are homes all over the country that are less than $50k (max 250/month mortgage)
I was at a conference where they were creating housing with integrated utilities, furnishings, internet, modern electronics, etc.....for a cost to illegal farm labor of only $250/month. (The rest government subsidized ~1500/unit) I asked if we should stock the frig with caviar too.
It's not an actual problem, more of a perceived problem.
Example:
My sister was laid off and "can't find a job". Well our family owns multiple business locations and we wanted her to work for us....but she is still looking for something she's passionate about...1.5 years later.
Can she not find a job, or Can she not find the job that she wants?
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:36 am to dewster
Yes.
I have this dream where I win the lottery, and just snag up all the vacant land I can here, and put it into a conservation easement. So sick of high density crap in the burbs.
You are exactly right. I lived in a nice complex in metro ATL in the late 90s, and when I moved back here in 2008, that place is an absolute shitfest. The entire area around it went from nice retail like a ski shop, to wig shops and title loans. It had been sold, and re-sold since I left. No telling how many times.
I have this dream where I win the lottery, and just snag up all the vacant land I can here, and put it into a conservation easement. So sick of high density crap in the burbs.
You are exactly right. I lived in a nice complex in metro ATL in the late 90s, and when I moved back here in 2008, that place is an absolute shitfest. The entire area around it went from nice retail like a ski shop, to wig shops and title loans. It had been sold, and re-sold since I left. No telling how many times.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:37 am to LSUFanHouston
They wouldn't need "affordable housing" if rents weren't artificially propped up by section 8 money. Food prices are another thing that is artificially kept higher because of the infusion of government money in the form of food stamps.
After they identify the need for more affordable housing, they then give out tax credits to low-life developers to build these shitty complexes which eventually attract the dregs of society.
After they identify the need for more affordable housing, they then give out tax credits to low-life developers to build these shitty complexes which eventually attract the dregs of society.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:38 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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... of course. How is this a even a question
Take the northshore for instance. People will say the people who work at the new strip mall box store areas need a place to live, I say those stores don’t need to be built
ETA- growth for the sake of growth is stupid.
This is an interesting take and it does have some merit. One thing we know is that the Coronavirus had widened the gap between the haves and the have nots. That's why you are seeing increasing instability in the country. The haves during the Coronavirus were the ones able to do their job remotely and therefore were not laid off or furloughed. The have nots typically work in lower wage jobs that require an in person presence and can not be done remotely.
I do understand the necessity of affordable housing since, as a poster said, the people who work in restaurants, retail and other low wage jobs need a place to live. With that said, with the Coronavirus most likely being the final nail for brick and mortar retail, the haves will no longer need the have nots around to do those jobs. I know its been discussed here before but commercial real estate is going to be screwed.
You look at traditional retail, that's really dying out fast. People will just go to Amazon, Walmart.com, Target.com and do their ordering online. People will also be more likely to work from home. That means more cooking at home (or at least delivery) and less eating out. Less restaurants needed. I could even see some fast food restaurants converting to drive through/carry out only with no seating area.
We might actually get the point where the haves no longer need the have nots around for the lower wage jobs. At that point you will see even more segregation in our society. I have guessed during all of this that the suburbs will make a big comeback and the cities will be where the have nots are forced to live out of necessity.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:40 am to Loubacca
I watched a food desert segment on CNBC this month. Where they actually ran off an existing Oakland Trader Joe's from a much needed hood..
Said the stability/possible gentrification effects to nearby midrises would raise rents..
Insanity!
Said the stability/possible gentrification effects to nearby midrises would raise rents..
Insanity!
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:43 am to TheNewOrleansSaints
Yep. I know most my fellow conservatives won’t like this, but covid really accelerated our path to UBI.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:43 am to Kujo
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single family residences only, min 1/2 acre, Should be codified as parish/county law
I see you don't have any knowledge of urban design, economics, public infrastructure, ecology, sociology, politics, water management, education, and so on.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:44 am to goofball
Yeah, unfortunately all those new apartments at Lee and Burbank will be Tigerland before long.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:46 am to goofball
Yes... If I could go back in time, I’d tell Jefferson Parish officials to keep everything R1...
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:46 am to upgrayedd
Tops kees all of those apartments developments afloat. There wasn't 1/3 the number of off campus apartments around LSU when I was there in mid to late 90s.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:46 am to upgrayedd
They look cheap as frick..and sit on low lying flood able land.
If without top notch ownership and management, will go south..fast.
If without top notch ownership and management, will go south..fast.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:48 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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I watched a food desert segment on CNBC this month. Where they actually ran off an existing Oakland Trader Joe's from a much needed hood..
Said the stability/possible gentrification effects to nearby midrises would raise rents..
Insanity!
It goes back to what's always irritated a lot of us.
White people don't move in to a black neighborhood - Racists! They want to stay segregated! They wouldn't dare mingle with black people!
White people move in to a black neighborhood - Gentification! They're raising rents! They're forcing out the black people! They're changing the culture!
For the black people in those area, what do you want? You need to stop straddling the fence on this issue, either you want white people coming in which will cause the neighborhood to change or you want segregation, which goes against everything MLK Jr. wanted. It's your choice.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:49 am to fallguy_1978
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Tops kees all of those apartments developments afloat. There wasn't 1/3 the number of off campus apartments around LSU when I was there in mid to late 90s.
I would go one step further and add the cheap money that students have access to through government backed student loans. Anywhere the government injects money into something, there will be artificial demand and prices will rise.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:49 am to goofball
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What says the OT? What's the ideal method to house low income families in a safe place that's also near employment opportunities?
Keep the plebs out of sight and out of mind.
Ain’t no body got time to deal with the poors round here.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:51 am to BottomlandBrew
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I see you don't have any knowledge of urban design, economics, public infrastructure, ecology, sociology, politics, water management, education, and so on.
It isn't urban, it's sub-urban.
This city has a 1 acre minimum. I've lived in another area with the same requirement.
We are getting screwed because there are pockets in the city that were zoned for high density prior to the city forming. So, you have luxury homes on minimum 1-acre lots getting apartments or town home clusters jammed in their backyards, and they do this near the good schools. Then the trailers come to accommodate the kids. Then the schools go to shiat.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:53 am to goofball
If you like crack-cocaine, you're going to LOVE suburban apartment complexes.
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:53 am to concrete_tiger
If there’s “affordable housing” in great school zone... it’s not going to be great for long
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