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re: Are indoor malls making a comeback?

Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:36 pm to
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And Sony just announced they will no longer produce BluRays. You're over-romanticizing things you see in your FB feed.


Don’t have Facebook but thanks for the assumption.

Actually going by the shitloads of teenagers that are around my house at all times. Anecdotal sure. But it’s in no way unique to them.


I never stopped buying vinyl records...

but my daughter is now buying CDs... she's into K-Pop and J-Pop at the moment... and she buys CDs of those bands, because they package them in ways that have book or something that the CD is in... and I've shown here how to use the CD player in my stereo setup, and to play them in the DVD player hooked up to her TV, and she doesn't... she listens to the music on her phone, she just wants the CDs for the other stuff that comes with them.
Posted by LSURoss
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:39 pm to
The mall in Lake Charles is always hoppin. Nice place to take the kids and let them run around.

Also so banger non-chain places in the food court.

I will say that the Dicks Sporting Goods attached to the mall kinda sucks.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39862 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:46 pm to
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That doesn't look that bad...



that is the best picture a realtor could find.

rent is sub 1k for a reason.

a kid got shot over there a few years ago. A week or so later I had a meeting with a customer at his warehouse in the area. When I got out, police had shut down every street and blocked all exits to one of the massive complexes

dudes were hoping the fence and running in the bayous in all directions.

looked like a scene from The Wire.

Talked to my customer cause I figured they were trying to catch the dude who killed the kid. He was like, nah it is just a Tuesday in gunspoint.

i covered that area for years working a sales job. It is pretty industrial with all the warehouses along the beltway but that area is rough and littered with the worst kind of shithole apartments
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:48 pm to
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My jr high student Daughter and her friends - a little clique of "hipsters" who don't like anything that's too popular - hang out at the Mall of LA on Saturdays sometimes...


That was what powered malls in their heyday.

Teens hanging out in a somewhat secure place (especially teenage girls who buy a ton of stuff) and mom shopping without kids on her heels constantly asking when she'll be done.

The point you make about it getting kids off social media and giving them a social setting other than school is one reason I hope some malls are able to hang on.

Many cities, like Pensacola -- which has one mall still surviving -- have done a lot to make their downtown areas destination spots to walk around and eat and shop again. But those are more adult oriented than places people let their 10-15 year olds run around.






Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:54 pm to
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I never stopped buying vinyl records...

but my daughter is now buying CDs...


I have a record shop in a part of the city that's much more 20 something hipsters and punks and 30sih single young professionals than families.

Still, the percentage of younger teens with parents and groups of older teens buying vinyl records and cassette tapes/CDs (especially teenage girls and vinyl records!) just continues to skyrocket.

This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3460 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:54 pm to
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In some areas, the anchors actually own the land they sit on.

That was why Dillards stayed open for so long after Cortana Mall shut down. Also, it created a unique situation for the new St. George.


In 2014, while the scuttlebutt was going on between the city of Baton Rouge and the organizers of St. George, Baton Rouge poached the mall while anchors stayed in St. George. Unless that changed with the second vote of St. George.


Cortana doesn't exist at this point so... and even then, Cortana was not in the St. George area, so?

If you mean the Mall of LA? The city of BR Annexed the Mall, the anchors who owned their land remain unchartered, part of neither BR or St. George.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:54 pm to
Antenna TV too, frick Cable
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37528 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:59 pm to
Hammond Square Mall RIP.
It wasn’t big but had a beautiful design with the central open atrium, fountains and foliage, open glass elevators. Really hated losing that one.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5579 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:03 pm to
Not happening in smaller cities.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:07 pm to
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For the most part, they never left the Houston area. The Woodlands Mall and the Galleria are just as good as they’ve ever been
Baybrook was still poppin' when I left Clear Lake a few years ago. Acadiana Mall is a shell of its former self.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Hammond Square Mall RIP
yes sir it was very nice. the new outdoor mall just isn’t the same and it’s way more of a hassle to navigate, more than it’s worth certainly
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3460 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:22 pm to
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I have a record shop in a part of the city that's much more 20 something hipsters and punks and 30sih single young professionals than families.

Still, the percentage of younger teens with parents and groups of older teens buying vinyl records and cassette tapes/CDs (especially teenage girls and vinyl records!) just continues to skyrocket.



When my daughter would listen something a lot... or ask for it in the car, I started buying it on vinyl for her, like "here, you can listen to it here on my stereo!!" But what happened then was that she stopped listening to whatever that was, so I got it... it must suck to have "hipster parents." We took her along to Atlanta to see The Cure last year and she acted like it was torture... I get that developing a personality/sense of self and independence requires kind of rejecting things that way... I wasn't like that, my parents were musicians/music teachers and music nuts, and I appreciated all of their stuff and being dragged to see Dizzy Gilespie and Lionel Hampton and Billy Cobham, at the same time liking punk rock and stuff that drove them nuts.

But I think there being a generation of parents who did not have or keep physical copies of music has made it a cool thing for teens to be into at this point. I laughed recently when I met a 21-year-old woman who was with some friends and she was complaining that her dad was a "gamer" and how she hated video games. Things circle around.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3460 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Not happening in smaller cities.


That's because smaller cities are drying up and dying overall, demographically... and malls thrive on pre-teens, teens and young adults, which smaller cities have fewer and fewer of... kids in those places reach adulthood and usually have to leave to make a good living, and that creates a downward population spiral as the population literally dies off with time.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:50 pm to
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Not happening in smaller cities.


Aging population, it's harder to make a living in a smaller city. I'm the only sibling of my family that still lives in our home area and that's because I used to work offshore and now work remotely.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5104 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Houston galleria?


Meant to say Hoover, AL
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:39 pm to
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When my daughter would listen something a lot... or ask for it in the car, I started buying it on vinyl for her, like "here, you can listen to it here on my stereo!!" But what happened then was that she stopped listening to whatever that was, so I got it... it must suck to have "hipster parents." We took her along to Atlanta to see The Cure last year and she acted like it was torture... I get that developing a personality/sense of self and independence requires kind of rejecting things that way... I wasn't like that, my parents were musicians/music teachers and music nuts, and I appreciated all of their stuff and being dragged to see Dizzy Gilespie and Lionel Hampton and Billy Cobham, at the same time liking punk rock and stuff that drove them nuts.




Most of my friends are musicians, most from punk bands. Many around my age have teenage kids. Some the kids reluctantly acknowledge their parents could have been cool (a long, long time ago) and get into their music. Many others just need to feel that they're discovering their own stuff.

One of my best friend's daughter's has Chapell Roan posters all over her room. I tell him she's rebelling better than he did in putting Ramones and Misfits posters on his back in the day.

I was the same way as you though. I was into punk but my close family were country musicians and I always appreciated the classic country stuff they liked.


Posted by CrappyPants
Member since Apr 2021
1032 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:41 pm to
Mall rats are better than hood rats
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
58609 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:08 pm to
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Some the kids reluctantly acknowledge their parents could have been cool (a long, long time ago) and get into their music. Many others just need to feel that they're discovering their own stuff.


plenty of videos on youtube and tiktok showing videos of 1980's and 1990's kids having fun and socializing without phones and no internet. Those kids were young and beautiful and full of life and I think the kids of today see these and realize hey my parents were cool and did cool shite. Maybe a reflection for the youths today to realize you don't need technology to be cool and have fun.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:12 pm to
Galleria is a great place to get jacked
Posted by SM1010
Member since Oct 2020
1277 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:52 pm to
Lots of areas became oversaturated with malls in the late 90s/early 00s thus lots of malls then died over the next 15-20 years.

The remaining malls are the ones that have always been successful for the most part.

I know in my area there have always been like 3-4 that have done well. The rest died off or are in the process. Those 3-4 are still doing well.
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