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re: Are Chiropractors real doctors?

Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by tigerpawl
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:12 pm to
Kinda reminds me of some Reverends who are in no way reverent.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:13 pm to
Will do

It may be misleading and even pompous in some instances for a non-physician doctor to ask to be referred to as "doctor", but when they earned their doctorate degree they also earned the title of "doctor".

Physicians don't get the "privilege" of being the only people in the world referred to as "doctors". Sorry if that rustles your jimmies.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:27 pm to
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Physicians don't get the "privilege" of being the only people in the world referred to as "doctors". Sorry if that rustles your jimmies



I don't think anyone is suggesting this is the case. There's a fairly legitimate concern that people who are in a healthcare setting who refer to themselves as "Doctor" when they are not physicians and are not explicit in their not being a physician cause general confusion they leads to a particularly unsafe situation for the patient. Outside the realm of possibly providing medical care, call them Doc if they want to be called Doc. Or make fun of them for being pretentious. But be explicit when patient safety is involved.

I don't particularly like that physicians have practically monopolized the public's definition of "doctor" when they're seeking healthcare, and it's a shame that those with an equivalent level of degree cause confusion when demanding to be referred to by their title in certain settings. But it is the way it is and will be for the foreseeable future.
Posted by Halftrack
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:36 pm to
I don't think "Dr. Phil" is a doctor is he?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:41 pm to
PhD in Clinical Psychology, per wiki.
Posted by Halftrack
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
Well, that just loops back to the pseudo medical 'doctor' PhD deal. I think some psychologists can prescribe meds in La. and they have little to no medical training.

Chiropractors in Kentucky can perform some surgeries. Optometrists can do some surgeries in Louisiana.

And they are all 'doctors.'

I guess if they say 'is there a doctor in the house?' They will all come running?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
I only know of one chiro i consider a real doctor. He had his md and own practice before going to chiro school, then he started with needleless acupuncture. For some he is a god send, kind weird to me but he is pretty honest about it and will straight tell you he cant help in a lot of situations.

Still acupuncture? Just weird to me a real doctor would embrace that
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:49 pm to
Why? Acupuncture is proven to help. It's just not as socially acceptable in the US.


There's even accupuncture for pets that some vets are devoting their entire practice to, and there's a lot of money in it.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:51 pm to
My wife has a doctorate in nursing...still calls herself a nurse. Should i correct her?

I am working on my doctorate in engineering. I will respond next time there is an emergency in public and there is a call for a doctor.

Claiming a Chiropractors' "doctorate" degree is as legitimate as me claiming to be royalty after receiving a cardboard crown from Burger King.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:55 pm to
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Anyone with a doctorate degree is a real doctor, the term doctor has been around longer than the MD degree. Doctor is a term for a level of education, not a job title.

Origin-Middle English doctour teacher, doctor, from Anglo-French & Medieval Latin; Anglo-French, from Medieval Latin doctor, from Latin, teacher, from docere to teach

If you mean physician, then say physician.

I agree with this assessment. If you've gone to a respectable university and earned a doctorate, you can use the title no matter what course of study the doctorate is in.

However, there are no respectable universities that offer doctorates in Chiropractic because it's a load of crap, so Chiropractors can't be doctors.
Posted by CuseTiger
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:55 pm to
Can a chiropractor fix something no other doctor can fix by modern day medicine? Absolutely. Have had my back aligned several times and feel much better afterwards
Posted by baytiger
Boston
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:56 pm to
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There's even accupuncture for pets that some vets are devoting their entire practice to, and there's a lot of money in it.
of course there's a lot of money in it.

lots of stupid people have money
Posted by baytiger
Boston
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:57 pm to
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Can a chiropractor fix something no other doctor can fix by modern day medicine? Absolutely. Have had my back aligned several times and feel much better afterwards
if he actually fixed it, then he wouldn't need to do it more than once
Posted by Boats n Hose
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 10:59 pm to
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There's even accupuncture for pets that some vets are devoting their entire practice to, and there's a lot of money in it.



Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
33003 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:08 pm to
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I am working on my doctorate in engineering. I will respond next time there is an emergency in public and there is a call for a doctor.


That is being obtuse, if there is an emergency and someone is asking for a "doctor" you can assume they are wanting a physician. But if I'm in a classroom at a university and a professor addresses himself as Doctor, I don't automatically assume he's a physician.

The OP did not specify that the chiropractor was in a healthcare setting and referring to himself as doctor, simply that she has a friend who refers to her own boyfriend as a doctor. I have a friend who is a pharmacist and for his wedding he was announced as Dr. and Mrs., do I think that was pompous? Of course, but it wasn't wrong.

Anyone with a doctorate degree has earned the "right" to be called Doctor. Is it always appropriate? Probably not, in most cases it comes off as douchy. I feel the same way if a physician wants to be called doctor outside of a healthcare setting.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:11 pm to
What kind of fig gets his dog acupuncture? Or gets it himself?
Posted by man in the stadium
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:12 pm to
Your entire premise is false since no legitimate university offers doctorates in chiropractic anything, as has been stated multiple times in this thread. If I go get a doctorate in the study of Mickey Mouse from Corinthians online for-profit college, are you saying I have a right to call myself a doctor?
Posted by Halftrack
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:12 pm to
Dr. Martin Luther King
Dr. Laura
Dr. Phil

They need to come up with a new term. Physcian + doctor = Phoctor

Hi, I'm Phoctor Brown.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30434 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:13 pm to
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Why? Acupuncture is proven to help. It's just not as socially acceptable in the US.


There's even accupuncture for pets that some vets are devoting their entire practice to, and there's a lot of money in it


This. American medicine wont embrace the idea that you cant make much money from sticking 12 re-useable needles in someone to provide relief.

My sister in law makes well over six figures as a pet acupuncturist. Good business for sure, and not the "con" many think it is.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:13 pm to
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they are doctors like Dr. Pepper is a doctor




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