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re: Are all HR departments out there complete dog shite?

Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44372 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:22 pm to
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The same thing happened to me. IT findings due to HR never letting us know user has been terminated.


There are so many hilarious social engineering stories from pentest guys about how they exploited the idiots in HR to basically get anything they wanted.

Funny for the pentest guys. Not so funny for the CISO having to explain why the company completely bombed their ISO or SOC2 audit to the CEO and Board of Directors.

Of course it's never HR's fault.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:24 pm to
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There are so many hilarious social engineering stories from pentest guys about how they exploited the idiots in HR to basically get anything they wanted. Funny for the pentest guys. Not so funny for the CISO having to explain why the company completely bombed their ISO or SOC2 audit to the CEO and Board of Directors. Of course it's never HR's fault.


No one gives a shite that you’re a senior associate in internal controls nerd
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48925 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 6:46 pm to
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HR isn’t there to protect employees.

HR is there to protect the company from employees, while smiling like they’re doing you a favor.



100% true.

Only exception I have seen was a company worked for that had a ton of locals in upper management. The HR lady had been there years and knew most people that worked there and their families. She was adored by the workers because she legit cared and took care of the regular workers. Warned us and advised us. Eventually after a long time corporate brought in someone over her and it all changed, because she didn’t have as much power to help the workers anymore. Every other place I have worked, anytime there was HR reps that looked out for workers they quickly were fired or moved. Same holds true for safety departments.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13602 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:26 pm to
At least it's not full of Indians like my dump is. The two non Indians that "run" HR for Texas couldn't tell me when open enrollment started. It eventually came out that the company "didn't know" until December when they wanted open enrollment (last two years it's been in October.) I opened tickets, I called, I opened chats, for over a month before someone let the secret leak.

Then, they gave us four days of warning before open enrollment started. Enrollment was only about five days long, and you of course couldn't view the options for benefit selection weren't even available for preview until open enrollment kicked off.

Before that, these absolute frickwits got served to garnish my paycheck for child support. Until then, I had to pay through the state AG website. I asked a simple question: You received the letter, so when are you actually going to start garnishing my check, so I don't pay twice? Couldn't fricking answer.

Women in HR are bad (the gay guys seem more competent based on what I've seen over the last 20 years), but Indians are a shocking level of incompetence, because the culture dictates that they just don't give a shite about "associates."
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10686 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Do you know many things that women are completely in control of that work properly?
Let’s look at Jeff Landry, JBE, some of Trump’s garbage policies, Biden, and Obama. What great things have all of these MEN accomplished? We’ll wait.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14912 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:43 pm to
It’s become a bastion of girl bosses, LGBTQ+, and DEI hires.

Everyone who actually has to produce something for a living hates them.

AI can’t come for the HR department fast enough. Most of the shite they are responsible for would easily be handled by a computer.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38356 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:44 pm to
Can't wait for babytac to see this thread so he can make up another story..
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13602 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 7:54 pm to
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Can't wait for babytac to see this thread so he can make up another story

But, surely you see that his HR department is competent, because they're all in the office.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:42 pm to
My wife was accidentally fired right before we had a child. We received automated Cobra paperwork which is the only reason we inquired WTF was going on. The acted like no big deal.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:42 pm to
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My wife was accidentally fired right before we had a child. We received automated Cobra paperwork which is the only reason we inquired WTF was going on. The acted like no big deal.


She was accidentally fired or she was fired and no one told her?
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:45 pm to
Accidentally fired. HR Manager mistakenly fired her in the HR system; she was not fired. No one in the business knew about it until we received the COBRA paperwork and we started asking questions. Thankfully it all got sorted out prior to heading to the hospital.
This post was edited on 12/27/25 at 8:46 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13602 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:47 pm to
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Not so funny for the CISO having to explain why the company completely bombed their ISO or SOC2 audit to the CEO and Board of Directors.

Of course it's never HR's fault.

I asked the last client I worked for who they used for background checks. I asked if they'd reviewed the SOC2 on a corp pulling PII on thousands of prospective employees a year. HR didn't know what a SOC2 was. Then I found out the copies of the background check results were being emailed as unencrypted PDFs to the client. JFC.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:48 pm to
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I asked the last client I worked for who they used for background checks. I asked if they'd reviewed the SOC2 on a corp pulling PII on thousands of prospective employees a year. HR didn't know what a SOC2 was. Then I found out the copies of the background check results were being emailed as unencrypted PDFs to the client. JFC.


Why are you like 50 asking these questions? That’s what staff is for
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13602 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:52 pm to
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Why are you like 50 asking these questions? That’s what staff is for

The shithole I work for puts me on engagements as the only security/privacy guy, no matter the size of the project.

I delegate as much as possible to anyone that has an inkling of interest, to try and coach them, but almost none exist. Complete bag of shite compared to what I interviewed for.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:53 pm to
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The shithole I work for puts me on engagements as the only security/privacy guy, no matter the size of the project.
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Go to a real firm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13602 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 8:55 pm to
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Go to a real firm

ATS and how much I make are killing me, especially being in Houston and not DFW or AUS. I even went to the point of applying to KPMG as a manager, shock horror.
Posted by bignuss18
Member since Sep 2025
386 posts
Posted on 12/27/25 at 9:21 pm to
We use RBAC and such, based on workday dept IDs to streamline application provisioning - it’s almost as bad as missing terms. HR puts the janitor in the wrong dept and he can end up with financial data on our clients (limited, but any inappropriate visibility to client data is not good in finserv).

It’s been explained to the hyphenated last name HR team plenty of times and they just don’t get it. It’s almost like I need to hijack their personal bank accounts and tell them my bad when I seize all their funds
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