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Are advances in medicine and pharmaceuticals weakening the human species?

Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:27 pm
Thanks to modern medicine and pharmacology, people that would normally die at birth or early in life due to health issues (asthma, COPD, diabetes, anaphylaxis, etc.), are living and procreating, resulting in the extension and expansion of genetic issues in the genome.

Has this resulted in a weaker human species?

ETA - I think these advances are great and have improved the quality of life of millions. I am just asking the question. The whole peanut/nut allergy thing got me thinking.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by tketaco
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:28 pm to
Keto is the only answer.
Posted by jamboybarry
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:31 pm to
Mollycoddling young weak children has done more to dilute the gene pool than any modern medical advances

Posted by Nicky Parrish
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:35 pm to
The miracle of modern medicine has saved me twice.
2 time (different) cancer survivor.
Posted by Dawgholio
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:39 pm to
Yes it is. Sorry but that’s a fact. The long term consequences for our species aren’t very good. Poor genetic traits (i.e. people that name their kids Jaxon or D’Orangejello, people that still wear Starter jackets, etc) are allowed to breed which is weakening the gene pool.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:39 pm to
Theoretically yes. Weaker beings should die out and not reproduce, but you also have to consider that most people alive today are descendants of beings who were naturally selected or they wouldn't exist.


Eventually gene editing will change a lot of things.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 2:41 pm
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:45 pm to
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Keto is the only answer.


With a dose of CrossFit
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Has this resulted in a weaker human species?
Yes
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Thanks to modern medicine and pharmacology, people that would normally die at birth or early in life due to health issues (asthma, COPD, diabetes, anaphylaxis, etc.), are living and procreating, resulting in the extension and expansion of genetic issues in the genome.

Has this resulted in a weaker human species?

ETA - I think these advances are great and have improved the quality of life of millions. I am just asking the question. The whole peanut/nut allergy thing got me thinking.




its hard to say about "weakening" the human species, one of the better indicators for long term genomic viability is genetic variation.


But problems with significant genetic basis, could offer some benefit somehow. Kinda like sickle cell trait/disease is protective vs mosquito born diseases (one of the most deadly diseases humans face).

Larger populations and increased genetic variation/diversity is generally beneficial against catastrophic bottleneck/speciation events.

COPD, diabetes (type2) are more associated with behavior than genetics and have nothing to do with birth/early life expectancy.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:08 pm to
I mean....

Posted by Bigbee Hills
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:35 pm to
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Are advances in medicine and pharmaceuticals weakening the human species?


There's no doubt that we have made it much, MUCH, easier for the weaker and dumber to survive.

There's no debating that we have, as a whole, circumvented the process of natural selection for our species and made it easier to survive and thrive; while sometimes making it impossible for the strongest and smartest of other species to even exist.

I've always wondered: If "mother nature" is so well-tuned, if she's so skilled at "spreading the love" around the environmental landscape in order to progress towards her goal of having a perfectly-balanced, well-oiled and balanced continuum, then how in the hell did she frick up so badly by giving one species the wrong dose?

I mean, if I were mother nature, assuming her agenda, then I'd really be wondering how I chit the bed so badly with those spoiled rotten humans.

Which leads to the next question: Since we have "commandeered" the process of natural selection, was it ever really meant as a "be-all-end-all" method of progressing evolution to a point of completion for all species- including humans?

Or are we the apex of the evolutionary process? Could we be the success story of evolution: That we all survive- even the weakest and the dumbest- and therefore we are the strongest and smartest? We are the goal she was shooting for?

Or, was the whole Darwinian kit & kaboodle flawed from top to bottom in regard to humans and our destiny?

Or, OR...how many licks does it take to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop?

I digress.
Posted by tketaco
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:55 pm to
Give them White Claw and they'll be untouchable.
Posted by Gus007
TN
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 3:59 pm to
No its welfare/ebt cards. Under performing adults are reproducing kids. The best and brightest are not having kids but are paying for the louts of society.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Mollycoddling young weak children has done more to dilute the gene pool than any modern medical advances


You may be more right than you know. The OP was making a reference to Peanut Allergies. There is a theory that Peanut allergies are the result of children who live in such ultra sanitary worlds that their immune systems have nothing to do and get "confused" into reacting to an otherwise harmless substance that is the peanut. Other foods as well, but the peanut is the most well-known. As a child, my friends and I played in the dirt, drank from garden hoses, ate apples right off the tree. Can you imagine the youth of today being allowed to do that?
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:07 pm to
Advances in medicine aren’t weakening us. Duh.

We weaken ourselves because of a want for instant gratification.

No one has any patience.

I want my cash and I want it now type of people. Gratification based on Instagram likes type of people.

I’m cool with the impatient. They’ll Darwin themselves out soon enough.

Only the tough survive.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Or are we the apex of the evolutionary process? Could we be the success story of evolution: That we all survive- even the weakest and the dumbest- and therefore we are the strongest and smartest? We are the goal she was shooting for
motherfricking this

We're not the tallest, nor the strongest. We don't swim like fish or fly like birds.

But we've used our brains and our abilities for thousands of years to build languages and communities. We've made ourselves the apex of life with help from our God given abilities
Posted by WylieTiger
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:16 pm to
I still drink from the hose.
Posted by wasteland
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:26 pm to
Just had my 2nd spine surgery. I'm amazed i was in the hospital less than 24 hours after such an invasive procedure.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 4:33 pm to
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No its welfare/ebt cards. Under performing adults are reproducing kids.


Not only are they reproducing kids, but they're reproducing at an alarming rate. Shaniqua with no job and 7 kids is a drain on society.
This post was edited on 9/29/19 at 4:33 pm
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