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re: Anyone truly willing to die to avoid the vaccine?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:33 pm to
White liberals are the main terrorists of this country
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15098 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:34 pm to
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You realize mRNAs have been around for a decade?


How many people have received a mRNA vaccine over the last decade? Can you post some result with the long term side effects if any over say 3, 5 and 10 years?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Jerrysworld
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2016
174 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:34 pm to
Do you wash your hands after taking a dump?

i don't wash my hands after i take a dump because i'm concerned about other people
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16533 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:35 pm to
We're talking about covid, not ebola. I'll take my chances with the 99.7% survival rate
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9299 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:35 pm to
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This should be about the common good and not the individual good.

Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1612 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:35 pm to
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You know why other vaccines have had no side effects emerge after 2 months? Because they were all FDA approve and went through the normal experimental process.


Yeah…they went through at least a two-month human trial. This vaccine has been tested on humans longer than a year and nothing has emerged. The long-term side effect convo at this point is nil. We would know something by now
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1652 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:37 pm to
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99.7% survival rate and rising, even higher for the variant

You do realize that this is true because the elderly and most vulnerable have been vaccinated, right? If we had no vaccines, this variant would be killing people at the same rate as a year ago.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9299 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:38 pm to
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The long-term side effect convo at this point is nil. We would know something by now

The why the manufacturers don't have skin in the game with "zero liability" waivers for everyone to sign?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:39 pm to
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Definitely not a commie. And I doubt you even know what a true communist government is and the difference between Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Liberal Democracy/Social Democracy.


You forgot Trotskyism, Stalinism, Maoism, and Bolshevism.

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It’s just a fun buzz word that others use and you use it to fit in like a sheep


You have used phrases like for the common good and you don’t give a shite about other people. Your entire position has been fed to you by media and elected officials.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66790 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:41 pm to
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And I doubt you even know what a true communist government is and the difference between Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Liberal Democracy/Social Democracy.


define them for us. short description is all that is necessary. for someone who’s as intelligent and rich as you, this should be easy. And don’t say you don’t have time, you’ve made 8 lengthy posts in the last hour alone.

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TigerOnTheMountain


take a look at Pentagon’s post history. He’s got a friend who’s son is dying of COVID because he passed it him? A close friend who’s an ICU nurse in Pittsburgh. A sister who’s also a nurse in Laffy working at a hospital. A cousin who worked on the Moderna vaccine. And an Uncle who’s a professor of neurobiology.

And that’s just skimming through his last 30 posts.

Sounds like he’s absolutely tailor made to speak about COVID. Every possible related COVID topic, he’s an expert on and has more experience or insight than anyone here…..

…Or he’s full of shite and these are all lies.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:43 pm to
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We would know something by now





Because big pharma and the government would tell you, am I right?

All these free vaccines...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:50 pm to
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drastically reduce symptons

I don't know when vaccinations became only a thing you did if you thought you would die


The flu shots drastically reduce symptoms as well.

I don't ever remember people choosing not to get them being such an issue.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51609 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:53 pm to
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Will anyone here admit that their distrust of the system is so deep that they are fine if they catch covid and die just to avoid the vaccine?


Yes.

COVID has a 97%+ survivability rate (probably closer to 99% once you factor in that those with very light or no symptoms aren't going in to get tested). The vaccines are such that even those "fully vaccinated" are not only getting reinfected but can also be spreaders.

These vaccines are not FDA approved, they are approved only through the emergency use guidelines. This means if they end up causing blood clots (see: J&J and AstraZeneca) or other side effects, these companies are immune from legal action. LINK

Also, none of these vaccines have yet to receive full FDA approval.

Also, also... in order to get FDA approval under normal circumstances the average timeframe on just the human rounds of testing takes ~6 years (1 for Phase, 2 for Phase 2, 3 for Phase 3). Animal testing alone can go one for 3 years yet animal testing on these vaccines started only just over a year ago and since then we've rushed through pre-clinicals and Phase 1 then jumped straight to Phase IV.

So yes, a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted.

Also, my wife had what we believe to be COVID (due to symptoms and circumstance) back in mid-January of 2020. If true, there's no reason for me to get this rushed product.

And yes, I am aware I am literally putting my life on the line over this. And so far I'm still going.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:56 pm to
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take a look at Pentagon’s post history. He’s got a friend who’s son is dying of COVID because he passed it him? A close friend who’s an ICU nurse in Pittsburgh. A sister who’s also a nurse in Laffy working at a hospital. A cousin who worked on the Moderna vaccine. And an Uncle who’s a professor of neurobiology.


How convenient

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Or he’s full of shite and these are all lies.


Almost like he’s a paid shill sent here to disrupt any dissent. Maybe he does work at the pentagon.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83571 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:56 pm to
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The flu shots drastically reduce symptoms as well.

I don't ever remember people choosing not to get them being such an issue.



I've always encourage people to get the flu shots. Even on the OT when we used to have flu shot threads.

There have also always been massive flu shot campaigns all over the country every winter.

My kids get their flu shot at school every year.

My company brings in nurses to give us flu shots (optional) every year.

Don't pretend like there isn't a push for the flu vaccine.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:59 pm to
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Don't pretend like there isn't a push for the flu vaccine.




How about you stop pretending like it's anything like the push we're seeing now. They're not even remotely similar, and you know it.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136811 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:00 pm to
Ponchytiger posts here

He is in timeout

His brother was loud and proud about giving the finger to Covid and the vaccine despite having all the elevated risks (over 50, overweight, diabetes, COPD, etc.)

His brother went into the hospital 10 days ago.

He was put on a ventilator on Sunday

He died on Tuesday.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66790 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:01 pm to
at this level tho?

did you ask your coworkers if they got the flu vaccine this year? did you worry if a member of your family coming in town doesn’t have the flu vaccine. did you schedule play dates with your kids classmates based on whether they got the flu vaccine? was there radio button on dating apps for flu vaccinated / non vaccinated?

the flu has never been a topic of conversation at any level like this.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 1:04 pm
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
72598 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Or he’s full of shite and these are all lies.



Sounds about right
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:03 pm to
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at this level tho?

you don’t ask your coworkers if they got the flu vaccine this year? you don’t worry of a member of your family coming in town doesn’t have the flu vaccine. you didn’t schedule play dates with your kids classmates based on whether they got the flu vaccine. there was no radio button on dating apps for flu vaccinated / non vaccinated.

the flu has never been a topic of conversation at any level like this.


There's one simple question that can be asked that shows the difference between the two:

When is the last time businesses even considered mandating the flu vaccines for it's employees?
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