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re: Anyone put in a pool recently?
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:49 pm to XanderCrews
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:49 pm to XanderCrews
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Has anyone ever put in a pool because they thought it would increase the value of a home?
I know people in the Gulf Coast area that have done it to their vacation homes and it's certainly added value for renting .Kids LOVE pools no matter how close they are to the beach or the size.
It's an absolute deal closer for rental property so it does add rental value and reseller value.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 7:39 pm
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:54 pm to PowerTool
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Sale is a verb. Sell is a noun.
Hmmm
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:33 pm to Lakefront-Tiger
I do plan on meeting with Earl from Paradise. I think ultimately I may scrap the hot tub. Would like to stay around $55K
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:54 pm to DatDude12
It varies with area... North Texas is growing so rapidly the price of concrete/labor has skyrocketed. A basic pool with spa will cost $75K, upgrades with stone, waterfall, etc and you're looking at $100K or more.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:21 pm to PowerTool
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Sale is a verb. Sell is a noun. Sally wants to sell her puppy at the sale.
Go back to school. You are trying to make fun of someone else and instead make yourself look dumb.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:25 pm to broadhead
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More like 80k. You're better off find a house for sale with one already built. They add zero value to the price per sq foot when you sale so it's a waste of money. And you won't use it as much as you think
Just a stupid line of thinking. You are paying for the enjoyment not to increase your property value. Im in my pool 200 days a year worth every penny.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:29 pm to Will Cover
A GDCK could crawl from yonder treeline right into your pool.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:13 am to Jim Rockford
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A GDCK could crawl from yonder treeline right into your pool.
Fortunately, we haven't encountered any crawly creatures in our pool ... yet.
I have killed one Copperhead in my back yard and 3 or 4 non-venomous water snakes.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:29 am to DivotBreath
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I just cannot justify a pool. I’d rather have a country club membership and use the pool there for three months out of the year and let them do all the work.
This is my thinking as well but my wife wants one. We have had some nuclear fights over this subject and I absolutely will not build a pool. Frick that shite X 1,000,000. However, the saving grace is that we are relocating back to LA for my work and the housing market is saturated with homes. I have given in and we are going to buy a house with a pool.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:59 am to Restomod
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It varies with area... North Texas is growing so rapidly the price of concrete/labor has skyrocketed. A basic pool with spa will cost $75K, upgrades with stone, waterfall, etc and you're looking at $100K or more.
I'm in N Texas and our pool just got plastered on Wednesday last week. Our contract price was $43k. We went more on the basic end of things. Nothing overly fancy but it isn't a bare bones pool either. "Upgrades" were a variable speed pump, kool deck, LED programmable light and quartz in the plaster.
It's 17,000 gallons hobby pool (not a diving pool).
Builder said that a hot tub adds $10-15k. I wouldn't use it enough to make it worth the expense.
Decking is a large amount of expense. We got a fair amount of decking. There are two large seating areas and a couple of walkways from my back patio.
So far, my only regret was only putting one light in. I had asked for a second but we hit rock which was an added expense. They didn't add the light (their error) and I didn't make an issue of it because I was a bit concerned about the rock charges. Kicking myself over that.
Otherwise, so far everything is what I wanted.
As far as value, I set my expectations to not get a penny back out of it. But a couple of real estate agents said they generally ask for about 70% of the value of the pool in the price. I also watch prices of houses in my neighborhood and the houses with pools all seem to be priced and sell for much more than what my purchase price + pool expense is. You literally cannot find a house priced reasonably with a pool in my neighborhood.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:01 am to broadhead
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You're better off find a house for sale with one already built. They add zero value to the price per sq foot when you sale so it's a waste of money. And you won't use it as much as you think
I vetoed a few houses that my wife liked because they had pools
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:22 am to DatDude12
You're probably not real far off but you're slightly low based on what I just went through. My guess would be around $75k.
I'm not sold on the benefits of salt over chlorine, but if you know anyone allergic to chlorine, you might consider it. Otherwise chlorine is simple to maintain.
One other thing I would be interested in at this point would be a plaster finish called ecofinish by a company called aquabrite. It's relatively new, but it's a step they take after the plaster that puts an epoxy like coat on the plaster. Water reacts with the plaster, but won't with the ecofinish which theoretically should last as long as the gunite shell in the pool (forever?). A guy I work with had it done on his pool and loves it.
If you're worried about costs, cut out as much decking as you can and contract that on your own after the fact. It's a large cost, and the pool builder is a middleman between each trade.
When you're negotiating, I would push the sales person on the payment schedule. I would push them to make 4 equal payments with the last one due AFTER the work is done. Offer to allow verification of funds if they're concerned about it. Not sure if it would work, but that would be my negotiation tactic. We had gotten to a point where they had 100% of the draw and were still lacking the plaster. We had issues with water seeping through the gunite (its not a quality problem but it can delay the plaster step). At this point, I would have also offered an early completion bonus (sooner than 6 weeks) of up to $1,000 if they would agree to a $1,000 penalty if they finished after 8 weeks. The other thing I would negotiate for is to cap the rock charge, and be specific on the rock charges. My sales person wrote $250 an hour for rock charges. While talking, he said the timer began when they attached the jackhammer, but what they tried to charge me for was virtually the entire dig. It was the difference of about $2,000. That's the only step that an extra charge can be incurred, so I would make sure you're there for the entire dig if you're worried about rock.
Sorry for the word wall.
I'm not sold on the benefits of salt over chlorine, but if you know anyone allergic to chlorine, you might consider it. Otherwise chlorine is simple to maintain.
One other thing I would be interested in at this point would be a plaster finish called ecofinish by a company called aquabrite. It's relatively new, but it's a step they take after the plaster that puts an epoxy like coat on the plaster. Water reacts with the plaster, but won't with the ecofinish which theoretically should last as long as the gunite shell in the pool (forever?). A guy I work with had it done on his pool and loves it.
If you're worried about costs, cut out as much decking as you can and contract that on your own after the fact. It's a large cost, and the pool builder is a middleman between each trade.
When you're negotiating, I would push the sales person on the payment schedule. I would push them to make 4 equal payments with the last one due AFTER the work is done. Offer to allow verification of funds if they're concerned about it. Not sure if it would work, but that would be my negotiation tactic. We had gotten to a point where they had 100% of the draw and were still lacking the plaster. We had issues with water seeping through the gunite (its not a quality problem but it can delay the plaster step). At this point, I would have also offered an early completion bonus (sooner than 6 weeks) of up to $1,000 if they would agree to a $1,000 penalty if they finished after 8 weeks. The other thing I would negotiate for is to cap the rock charge, and be specific on the rock charges. My sales person wrote $250 an hour for rock charges. While talking, he said the timer began when they attached the jackhammer, but what they tried to charge me for was virtually the entire dig. It was the difference of about $2,000. That's the only step that an extra charge can be incurred, so I would make sure you're there for the entire dig if you're worried about rock.
Sorry for the word wall.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:26 pm to Will Cover
Will - who did your pool?
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:54 pm to Will Cover
Look at that arse! My dobe just pitched a tent.
Should have had a swim up bar though.
Should have had a swim up bar though.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 12:56 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:well chlorine is based on salt, the pros of salt are better. This comes from my dad who had a chlorine pool for 20 years who recently switched it to salt.
I'm not sold on the benefits of salt over chlorine
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:00 pm to Will Cover
quote:you will get some at some point. bad thing about a zero entry is they can get out. f you dont have one they will most likely die before you realize it is there.
Fortunately, we haven't encountered any crawly creatures in our pool ... yet.
I have killed one Copperhead in my back yard and 3 or 4 non-venomous water snakes.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:02 pm to DatDude12
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:06 pm to DatDude12
They have them at Walmart for $350.00
Posted on 6/4/18 at 1:40 pm to CarRamrod
What are the benefits? Everything I read seemed like they were just marginally "better" in a matter of opinion.
Cost seems relatively low on chlorine, so how much lower can it be?
Salt systems are more complex. If you have to service the equipment or have issues you're relying on a professional. Chlorine equipment is pretty dummy proof. Pump takes water out of the pool, runs it through a tank with some filters, puts it back in the hole. A simple dialed in inline chlorinator keeps chlorine in the pool. Watch pH, calcium and metals and you're good to go.
If you know how to manage chlorine chemicals, you shouldn't have agitated skin unless someone is just allergic.
Cost seems relatively low on chlorine, so how much lower can it be?
Salt systems are more complex. If you have to service the equipment or have issues you're relying on a professional. Chlorine equipment is pretty dummy proof. Pump takes water out of the pool, runs it through a tank with some filters, puts it back in the hole. A simple dialed in inline chlorinator keeps chlorine in the pool. Watch pH, calcium and metals and you're good to go.
If you know how to manage chlorine chemicals, you shouldn't have agitated skin unless someone is just allergic.
Posted on 6/4/18 at 3:24 pm to Canvasback
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who did your pool?
Brian Keith.
We have been very pleased with the work he performed.
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