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re: Anyone know this Lafayette girl that died from Covid?

Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:29 pm to
Apparently another young guy, Michael Pappas in Eunice also died today from Covid. I haven’t seen his age listed so not sure how old but seems around 30 from pic.

Maybe there is more to this delta variant

What a pain in the arse

This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 10:46 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:30 pm to
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So if majority of people did wear mask, did that ultimately reduce transmission?


Kind of odd how we went from 38 million cases of the flu to under 2000.

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The other is that influenza is a seasonal virus that tends to appear more often in the colder months, travels and their pattern/spread can be traced from country to country by epidemiologist. With countries reducing travel, did that limit spread as well?


Speaking of seasonal, aren’t most statistics for viruses tracked seasonally or yearly? Reports typically state, “in 2019, x number of people died from the flu”, yet with Covid we’re still aggregating the numbers. Shouldn’t the counts restart in 2021, if this is going to become a “forever” virus that will require yearly vaccinations?

Posted by FCP
Delta State Univ. - Fightin' Okra
Member since Sep 2010
5173 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:31 pm to
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I am just surprised they don't require nurses to be vaccinated.
This. I mean outside Covid being tied to politics, I would hope that health care professionals have all the needed vaccinations while on the job (flu comes to mind, but there are others).

Having said that, I've got a close friend whose wife is an RN. She is anti-Covid vax and refused to take it. Now, she's suffering through Covid and has managed to infect her kid, her husband, around a dozen folks in our church, and an unknown number of folks she treated before taking the test. Some of those she infected are already in hospitals.
Posted by Pisgah Pete
Buncombe County
Member since Feb 2021
602 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:33 pm to
So she had 2 tweets from July 2020 that were skeptical of a rushed vaccine and forced vaccinations.

And nothing since then. Is it possible as more information became available and millions of doses of the vaccine were given with no side effects that she changed her opinion?

Will all the people dancing on her grave over year old tweets change their tune if they find out she was in fact vaccinated?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46741 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:36 pm to
Me personally, I am not dancing on her grave

Yes she could have changed her mind.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:37 pm to
She absolutely could have changed her mind. But those weren’t just apprehensive tweets. They were definitive statements on the MRNA vaccines being harmful and “DNA changers”

But I still don’t see how it makes it any less tragic she died. I have a shite ton of family and friends who are brilliant people that have not taken the vaccine. If they died I would be devastated
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44326 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:38 pm to
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If one has already had China flu, why must they get a vaccine?


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my assertion: Previously having Covid provides protection against the variants in the same way as those that have been vaccinated. As such, we should be combining those previously infected with those that have been vaccinated. Combined, we have to be (ARE) reaching the threshold for herd immunity.


Thd above is from another thread in relating to the following question:

Why are people that have had Covid not combined with those that are vaccinated to get an accurate % as it relates to herd immunity?
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 10:39 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31532 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:42 pm to
If you don’t want to take the vaccine you shouldn’t be forced to. I get the hesitancy some have towards it, but it seems like many in the anti vax crowd take it several steps further and look for and celebrate anything that someone who took the vaccine contracts as a way to tie it to their viewpoints (rightly or many times wrongly), make up "facts" such as nurses being required to else face being fired, or any number of other things that prop their stance up.

I’m against government mandates on much of anything, we should never have had lockdowns, and the hysteria surrounding Covid was blown way out of proportion and remains that way. But the nuts on the anti vax side come off as that - nuts - and almost seem just as forceful about the issue as the most ardent proponents of it.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:42 pm to
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NOT A SINGLE LOUISIANA HOSPITAL IS REQUIRING THE VACCINE


I've been told by an employee that Abbeville General is ... she's taking retirement early.

I'm going to inquire about it with another friend that works there.

I was terminated by my employer as the contract she has with the LTC where I work was amended to say she would provide vaccinated staff. Well, my position was THE ONLY ONE being mandated to take a vaccine and well, that didn't sit well with me. SO I got my 30 day notice of termination and was fine with it.

5 days later, I received an email from my employer saying that her amended contract with the facility/company had been put "on hold while this discussed the issue", again only my position .. not one other position, contract or staff, is being required. And for now I'm not either.

So for now, I'm still working from home ... BUT if I wanted to just "visit" a resident, I'd have no trouble being allowed in, vaccine or no vaccine. How does THAT make any sense???
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 10:47 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:44 pm to
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I've been told by an employee that Abbeville General is ... she's taking retirement early.
It is not

It is take the vaccine or wear a mask. However, that’s a null point for any of those that work in the hospital because everyone is still forced to wear masks there
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:49 pm to
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It is not

It is take the vaccine or wear a mask. However, that’s a null point for any of those that work in the hospital because everyone is still forced to wear masks there


Well then that is good to know .. either she misunderstood them OR I misunderstood her but I know that I heard her say she wasn't taking it so she retired.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:51 pm to
I absolutely beleive she told you that. A lot of people refer to the policy as “being forced to get the vaccine”. I hear that daily
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 10:54 pm to
Forced to get it and forced to wear a mask are two very different things.

I appreciate the info.

BTW, how do you know about all facilities? Not being ugly -- just curious. And I posted about my personal situation in my edited comments above.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4146 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:00 pm to
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This. I mean outside Covid being tied to politics, I would hope that health care professionals have all the needed vaccinations while on the job (flu comes to mind, but there are others).

Having said that, I've got a close friend whose wife is an RN. She is anti-Covid vax and refused to take it. Now, she's suffering through Covid and has managed to infect her kid, her husband, around a dozen folks in our church, and an unknown number of folks she treated before taking the test. Some of those she infected are already in hospitals


Zero people should be forced to vaccinate.

No coercion is right, no matter the issue. It destroys the idea of informed consent.

The biggest issue with covid is that we don't treat it. We wait to see if you're gonna need to be hospitalized, then you're either fricked or you're not, depending on what (politically justifiable) treatment protocol theyve blanket decided on at your hospital system.

Treatment with known, safe medicines is paramount, and we've removed that because of politics.

Whether it's ivermectin, steroids, plaquenil+zinc, nuclear doses of C, and D... the doctors need to be re-encouraged to treat the people in front of them on an individual basis, not handcuffed by some administrator's policy decision.

Too many people are dead because of THIS, not necessarily the virus itself, or the lack of vaccines.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111525 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:05 pm to
Smaller hospitals leaned on Lourdes, LCMC, and Ochsner on how to handle the covid vaccine policies

Also in Louisiana it’s pretty much impossible to make a vaccine actually mandatory for employment. The hospitals have all already gone through this with other vaccines
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:12 pm to
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Treatment with known, safe medicines is paramount, and we've removed that because of politics.

Whether it's ivermectin, steroids, plaquenil+zinc, nuclear doses of C, and D... the doctors need to be re-encouraged to treat the people in front of them on an individual basis, not handcuffed by some administrator's policy decision.


Not sure why you are getting downvoted on this. Is anything in this statement false?
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
47455 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:17 pm to
So when will unvaccinated people be allowed to not wear masks? Never. I workout at the Jewish Community Center and they have that same policy.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4146 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:17 pm to
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Not sure why you are getting downvoted on this. Is anything in this statement false?


I disrupted the serotonin dump people get from circle jerking about the shot and then advocating the use of force for others to get.

This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:24 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:23 pm to
Well the LTC facility where I consult sure did try to make it for me and rescended that 5 days later ... for now.

Edit: I thought I read here that it could be made a condition of employment?
This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 11:44 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10623 posts
Posted on 7/11/21 at 11:37 pm to
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quote: “Just saw it onTwitter because she had a bunch of anti-vax tweets.”



It's amazing how excited these people get over someone dying that didn't want to take the vaccine. It's vile


It’s really disgusting and not a surprise that Spleen would be following crap like this on Twitter.
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