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re: Anyone here can't swim?

Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:39 am to
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9638 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:39 am to
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Note to self....swim 5,000+ meters and return to the OT so that I can impress another poster


I think a 5k swim might cause a person to lose their mind with boredom
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21400 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:41 am to
Interesting fact. Back in c Columbus days it was considered bad luck on a ship if you knew how to swim.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23370 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:42 am to
When I enrolled in Kindergarten at Punahou School in Hawaii, they asked all of us if we could swim. If the answer was "no," you were immediately enrolled in daily swim lessons.

Given the amount of water in Louisiana, kids should have swim lessons.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6005 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:43 am to
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I don't understand how a human can get to adult age without learning how to swim.


Because they had parents that didn't get them in a pool or lake at a young age.

IMHO, parents that don't make sure their kids can swim well are doing them a huge disservice. I felt it was an important safety issue, especially living in Houston where so many people have pools or go to the beach. I cannot imagine not being able to swim.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53749 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:46 am to
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I think a 5k swim might cause a person to lose their mind with boredom


I mush prefer open water swimming to pool swimming and was planning on doing this down in the Keys this summer, got pushed to next summer but then plans changed again so probably not going to make it down there to do it till Sept 2024.


Swim for Alligator Lighthouse

8 miles...one of the 8 toughest swim challenges in the world
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 9:47 am
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9638 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:49 am to
8 miles - hmmm

Please report back
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1634 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:51 am to
Yeah, when I did an IM, the one or two training sessions where I swam the 2.4 straight in the pool sucked bad. Swam it twice in open water and honestly was surprised when it was done. It's just mentally so much easier.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:51 am to
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Because they had parents that didn't get them in a pool or lake at a young age.


Understand...but at a certain level of intelligence, you Understand in your mind how movements thru water create a force that moves you

I'm sorry, but it you can't tread water and/or move forward in it, you are an extremely low intelligence human.
I mean, if you wanted to do a simple task like paddle a canoe, would you stab the water with it? No, you move it thru the resistance of the water.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24260 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:54 am to
I have posted this before in related threads, but it shocked me how many guys couldn't swim in Navy boot camp.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53749 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:57 am to
It's basically the same as every other endurance event I've participated in. Log enough training to handle the volume and find a pace you can handle.

The one thing I've never done is taken nutrition while swimming and it's hard to digest anything in the water so my guess is I would try to stick with as many liquid calories as possible.

I'd like to set a 4 hour goal but will plan for 5 hours just in case. So, thinking 200-300 calories per hour is doable with maybe like a half PB&J every hour followed by regular water and regular sipping a relatively concentrated electrolyte mix
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9638 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:59 am to
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It's just mentally so much easier.


But was it really better when people were kicking you in the face on race day?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53749 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:59 am to
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Yeah, when I did an IM, the one or two training sessions where I swam the 2.4 straight in the pool sucked bad.


I never did that for anything close to that for any of my IM's. I did some longer OWS sessions over 1.5 miles but never anything close in a pool. Honestly, I didnt even do that many swims over 3K for training altogether but like I said, I am not much of a fan of pool swimming for OWS fitness.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1019 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:03 am to
Much more difficult to tread water than to swim. Also, most of the people in this thread are likely overweight and count their natural blubbery buoyancy as swimming acumen.
Posted by poppa1254
Moody, AL
Member since Jan 2019
433 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:05 am to
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I have posted this before in related threads, but it shocked me how many guys couldn't swim in Navy boot camp.
My ex brother-in-law joined the Coast Guard right after he married my sister (early 60’s.) He could not swim. On the day of his swimming test, the instructor turned around to talk to someone, so he jumped in the shallow end, walked to the other side, and got out. The instructor turned around and told him ok, you pass. He spent 3 years in the Coast Guard and never knew how to swim.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25484 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:07 am to
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Understand...but at a certain level of intelligence, you Understand in your mind how movements thru water create a force that moves you





that's my point.
It's one thing for a 10 year old who's ever swam before to not know how and struggle with it, and panic in the water.

But i can't understand how an adult with a functioning brain can't figure it out.
dogs figure it out. a human should be able to as well, unless your dumber than a dog.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5299 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:08 am to
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In Holland you used to have to be able to swim to go from 2nd grade to 3rd. And that meant swimming a pool length fully clothed (trousers, socks, shoes, long sleeved wool sweater).


Seems like a pretty basic skill for self preservation.

Not to mention you’re missing out on a lot of fun if you’re scared to be around or get in the water.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1634 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:29 am to
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ever did that for anything close to that for any of my IM's. I did some longer OWS sessions over 1.5 miles but never anything close in a pool


I trained with a coach and a "team". There were group brick workouts. The workouts were never "swim 2.4 miles", but sometimes it was swim for a set time, then a group bike ride for xx miles. I just happen to swim 2.4 in ~1:10 to 1:15 which was always around how long we were in the pool so I'd shoot for it. Most pool workouts were intervals. A group member lived on a lake, so we'd go once a week and swim there for open water.

I'm really comfortable in group swimming. Never had issues getting beat up. I'm not trying to win the swim, so I create space for myself even if it means not being in the best position. Never had an issue other than my first sprint race where I swam too much in the lead pack.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53749 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:35 am to
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The workouts were never "swim 2.4 miles", but sometimes it was swim for a set time


Oh, I hear ya...I just never did any straight swims. I may have swam 3500 yds but always in intervals and sets. Any straight swims I did were always open water.

I see very little value in straight pool swims. You can replicate the time and volume but still break it up with sets and because of the turns, black lines, not sighting, etc. it's not a very good comp IMO
Posted by kritra
Lafayette
Member since May 2008
231 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:36 am to
I taught Water Survival and HUET (Helicopter Underwater Escape Training) for people going offshore. I was, and still am, shocked at the number of people who work offshore that not only don't know how to swim, but are absolutely petrified of water.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 10:38 am to
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In Holland you used to have to be able to swim to go from 2nd grade to 3rd. And that meant swimming a pool length fully clothed (trousers, socks, shoes, long sleeved wool sweater).


You cannot graduate from MIT without passing a swimming test, no exceptions. They started the requirement in the 1960s after a student drown.
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