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re: Anyone have a kid that just doesn’t care about school?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:50 pm to Epic Cajun
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:50 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:This was my dad's method. Kenna-bras may know the area. My dad would drive me around Susan Park and say this is where you'll end up if you don't get good grades haha.
I feel like I would drive her around a poor neighborhood and tell her that's where people live who don't care about school.
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:fair question but I always wondered how this test is given and what benefit it is to call a young student gifted. Why not just encourage him or her to do the regular coursework without having some label which automatically informs everyone hey im smarter than you.. How necessary is it
Have you had him tested for Gifted?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:51 pm to efrad
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You clearly don't understand gifted kids.
I had pretty much the same circle of friends from 2nd grade on, because of the gifted program in our parish
Likely, none of these kids were really that gifted, which I'm not shitting on and is okay.
If everyone is brilliant, than no one is. Most of those kids were likely at above average intelligence which necessitates the hard work or the scattered results you saw.
Through my work, I've seen some truly fricking brilliant people. They are routinely quite bizarre, but it's painfully obvious that they are on another level of the way their brain works.
The OP's kid is probably of average to slightly above average intelligence, and for whatever reason (probably because he's 10) school isn't holding his attention. He'll probably grow out of it, go to state school, and end up being a corporate bot like the super majority of people.
The world'll keep turning.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:51 pm to The Cool No 9
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fair question but I always wondered how this test is given and what benefit it is to call a young student gifted. Why not just encourage him or her to do the regular coursework without having some label which automatically informs everyone hey im smarter than you.. How necessary is it
It's primarily an IQ test and it's important b/c you need to teach high IQ kids differently or else you get what OP describes.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:51 pm to Prominentwon
I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned but have you tried making any incentives for him?
He gets straight A's cash? Take him to his favorite sporting event?
He gets straight A's cash? Take him to his favorite sporting event?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:53 pm to Prominentwon
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Kid is at a highly rated school and puts very minimal effort into his school work. Doesn’t do much homework. No initiative. No desire to be there. Nothing. The problem is that the kid is brilliant. He’s got a 3.0 by doing the bare minimum. If he actually put the effort into school like he did extracurricular activities, he’d be a 4.0 student. We’ve taken things away. He doesn’t care. Grounded. Doesn’t care. Will just serve the time and go back to coasting. Thoughts? Experiences? Just looking for angles. He’s 10 in the 4th grade.
I was the same. For me, it started in elementary school when I refused to join the TAG program because I didn’t want to be apart from my friends.
My 6th grade teacher once wrote my parents a letter telling them that I would occasionally put effort into an assignment, and she would be blown away that my performance was so far above my peers, only for the next to be so far below them. It got worse until I bottomed out in high school, graduating in the bottom quartile of my class and skipping a great deal of school, doing only enough to remain eligible for sports. I ended up a much higher college GPA in the business school than I had in HS.
I regret every bit of it because it made my path through college and my early professional life much more difficult. I still suffer through demotivation spells from these deeply ingrained bad habits. In fact, I’m in one now.
My parents used carrots and sticks, and none of it mattered. I’m afraid you’re likely going to have to suffer through it a bit and let him experience real world pain for him to change his ways.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:54 pm to Prominentwon
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he problem is that the kid is brilliant. He’s got a 3.0 by doing the bare minimum.
This was me. It drove my mom crazy but the fact is middle school just didn't interest me and since it didn't I didn't put forth the effort. I did what i needed to to pass...point blank.
I got to college and started taking classes that grabbed me. Graduated LSU spending some semeters on dean's list, graduated with my masters with a 4.0 and a a thesis I'm damn proud of. Went back for one more round of post grad classes to sit and pass my boards to be a behavior analyst.
Point being...you're kid will probably be fine once he see's a reason to engage in school.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:56 pm to Prominentwon
I'm certainly no master at Parenting but I've got a current Junior and an 8th grader.
I told them when they were in elementary school that their job was to soak up as much as they could and learn to be a student.
In junior high I told them their job was to handle all assignments in a timely manner to the best of their ability and learn how to soak in information outside of the classroom (study)
In high school it's their job to achieve their highest GPA possible and continue to learn studying outside of the classroom.
One is G/T and the other was right there but not in the program. Each has done well, neither LOVE school but both understand the college degree gets them a ticket to learn in a broader range of fields than not having one.
take it for what it's worth.
I told them when they were in elementary school that their job was to soak up as much as they could and learn to be a student.
In junior high I told them their job was to handle all assignments in a timely manner to the best of their ability and learn how to soak in information outside of the classroom (study)
In high school it's their job to achieve their highest GPA possible and continue to learn studying outside of the classroom.
One is G/T and the other was right there but not in the program. Each has done well, neither LOVE school but both understand the college degree gets them a ticket to learn in a broader range of fields than not having one.
take it for what it's worth.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:57 pm to The Cool No 9
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fair question but I always wondered how this test is given and what benefit it is to call a young student gifted. Why not just encourage him or her to do the regular coursework without having some label which automatically informs everyone hey im smarter than you.. How necessary is it
It’s a gateway to more challenging classes, eventually AP classes.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:58 pm to Prominentwon
You just described yopung me and I turned out all right. 
Posted on 1/30/23 at 1:59 pm to Prominentwon
Children and adults today have it too comfortable.
In 4th grade I was cutting grass for cash money.
Had to wash my Mom's car every Saturday morning.
Cleaned catfish to sell in middle school.
Chased girls in high school while working part time at McDs'.
Today their are many teens who have never had a part time job and adults hire some yard service to mow their lawns.
Out of 16 of us who graduated went on to attend LSU, only 3 of us graduated from LSU. Many dropped out, some went to Nicholls.
In 4th grade I was cutting grass for cash money.
Had to wash my Mom's car every Saturday morning.
Cleaned catfish to sell in middle school.
Chased girls in high school while working part time at McDs'.
Today their are many teens who have never had a part time job and adults hire some yard service to mow their lawns.
Out of 16 of us who graduated went on to attend LSU, only 3 of us graduated from LSU. Many dropped out, some went to Nicholls.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:00 pm to The Top G
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Likely, none of these kids were really that gifted, which I'm not shitting on and is okay.
I agree. I’ve been around a lot of really bright people in my time, but only a handful of them were truly gifted intellectually.
I wrote a brief story about summer vacation to start second grade and my teacher thought I was a genius and should be in TAG because I knew to write “a lot” instead of “alot,” which is a common early literacy mistake. I remember that parent teacher conference like it was yesterday; I thought it was ridiculous even though I was 7.
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:00 pm to Prominentwon
Give him a shovel for 2 weeks. No school. No problem.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:02 pm to Prominentwon
Mines been this way his whole life. Very little effort but still gets straight As. I fear for him in college bc that will take initiative but he’s breezed through with straight As up til now (10th grade) and they accepted him into dual credit for next year, too.
If you figure out how to flip the switch let me know.
If you figure out how to flip the switch let me know.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:03 pm to scott8811
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This was me. It drove my mom crazy but the fact is middle school just didn't interest me and since it didn't I didn't put forth the effort. I did what i needed to to pass...point blank.
I skipped 6 weeks of Sr English, my interest was sports. I never once took home "homework."
My interest was sports. My college GPA was 3.65, did Ok. College being less structured, worked better for me than being pushed around like cattle in public school.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:04 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Mines been this way his whole life. Very little effort but still gets straight As. I fear for him in college bc that will take initiative but he’s breezed through with straight As up til now (10th grade) and they accepted him into dual credit for next year, too. If you figure out how to flip the switch let me know.
Anyone who has never failed at something, has never truly done something difficult.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:07 pm to Prominentwon
Dude, I have nephews in 5th and 1st grade. The 5th grader would rather be playing baseball or basketball, hunting or PS5 than go to school. He makes As and Bs, but he is 11.. So yeah.. what 10-11 year old would rather be in school than doing fun shite?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:09 pm to Prominentwon
What kinds of friends are in his friend group?
Kids going into their pre-adolescence usually shift their behavioral patterns away from their parents and take on the behaviors and attitudes of their peers.
Thus, if he is hanging around a bunch of slackers that do not care about school, but all into sports, he will adopt that attitude also. He may need to change his peer group to kids that want to achieve academically and athletically.
Kids going into their pre-adolescence usually shift their behavioral patterns away from their parents and take on the behaviors and attitudes of their peers.
Thus, if he is hanging around a bunch of slackers that do not care about school, but all into sports, he will adopt that attitude also. He may need to change his peer group to kids that want to achieve academically and athletically.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:09 pm to LSUGrrrl
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. I fear for him in college bc that will take initiative
I thrived in a system that required initiative, hated the public school system where everything was systematic.
Some kids to better when on their own.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:09 pm to The Top G
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Not to be rude, but if he's brilliant he would be making straight A's without doing the things he mentioned.
Depends on how he is getting the 3.0. If he has all As on test and gets zeros for homework, he might be brilliant. Hard to get straight As if you don't turn in all the assignments
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