re: Anyone Get to Observe One of the St. George Petition Signings?

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St. George, if it passes, and Baton Rouge are in a mutually assured death spiral, the likes of only a Great Wall, and checkpoints can even hope to stave off. The problems originated with those who make up the Proposed St. George as they are the ones who built it and profited off the quick and unconscious construction we know as BR and St. George. There is no difference in the two, and both will tank together.

You know why I know that St. George won't stand and fight for St. George, besides of course the fact that they haven't stopped running yet? It's because there's nothing to fight for. There is no LSU, Tiger Stadium, Urban Downtown, Mississippi River, or infrastructure or "Too Big to Lose" thing that would cause them to lay it on the line and invest money when it gets dated and ugly, which it will. There is even LESS reason to fight than ever before. That's why they will tuck tail and run, and quick when they're living next door to an enormous ghetto that can't support itself or fund it's own street maintenance, aging sewer maintenance, schools, etc, and that will be invading St. George quickly to escape the BR stink hole you waxed worse still.

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You know why I know that St. George won't stand and fight for St. George, besides of course the fact that they haven't stopped running yet? It's because there's nothing to fight for.

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Gonna have to disagree with you again bud. I can't believe that I'm the only one in Shenandoah that wants to be proud of the neighborhood. I may just be a stubborn SOB, but this is where I'm going to raise my kids and hopefully grow old one day.

What does prarieville and denham have that St. George and Baton Rouge don't? We've got them beat in restaurants, entertainment, parks, libraries, etc. But they've got us thrashed in schools, and it's not even close. Doesn't have to be that way though. IMO, fix the schools, fix the flight. The young professionals everyone craves will return to raise families. Lsu students won't haul arse after graduating. You want community pride, give the people something to rally around. Unless the school system magically changes their approach overnight, I'm beginning to think a St. George system may be the boost br needs to reverse the trend of people leaving the parish.

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Gonna have to disagree with you again bud. I can't believe that I'm the only one in Shenandoah that wants to be proud of the neighborhood.

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I say the same thing to when I drive around the elementary school, or look down George Oneal and Oneal at the big nasty encroachment.. Hard to believe people don't take any more pride than that. Similar can be said for the destruction of the golf course I frequented as a kid with friends and family. I know that area well, and it's not what she used to be, and people couldn't give a rats arse there either. The evidence is all around to be seen.

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What does prarieville and denham have that St. George and Baton Rouge don't?

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More white people?

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We've got them beat in restaurants, entertainment, parks, libraries, etc. But they've got us thrashed in schools, and it's not even close

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Except for schools and libraries, I know one damn thing. It loves chains. It also has a similar lack of planning model of building roads down old pasture roads, that splinter off unto many different subdivisions that all have to funnel to that one two lane highway and make traffic completely retarded. That's only the beginning of the nightmare to come. See? It's the pattern of not learning from your mistakes in BR,a nd repeating them in P'ville. Same people, same problems on the horizon.

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Lsu students won't haul arse after graduating. You want community pride, give the people something to rally around.

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A plant job and Prarieville?

OK.. Let's look at that age group. Most across the country desire much different things than their parents and grandparents did, and almost all of it revolves around a city and urban growth, not suburban sprawl. That's my daddy's generation speaking, and mine as well. If there's one major reason were going to lose these grads elsewhere it's that they see the pattern of self destruction and want nothing to do with it, and care less for moving to LP and AP as getting out and making their lives better in the process.


Moving out of state to someplace better I understand. Abandoning Baton Rouge and thinking you can run from the problems and it not catch up and bite you in the arse is complete foolishness to me. It will never work, and the only thing you do is surrender the only thing you do have going for you for a pasture in the middle of Who Cares Louisiana guarding some pasture, and hoping it takes a while to catch up. Who pays for it really? The kids do, because our legacy we hand them is the cow pasture rather than the city we couldn't seem to find a value to it in order to deem it worthy of holding on to.

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It is and even if it becomes SG it still will be.

Baker and Zachary have been incorporated for almost 100 years. Central, while not incorporated, has been "Central" for many decades. You could have asked anyone who lived there 25 years ago where they lived and they would have said, "Central" and you would have known what they meant.

If you ask someone in SG where they live, they'll say "White Oak Landing" or some other subdivision, not St George (unless they actually live in the subdivision named St George).

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so in a 100 years we will be able to say that, got to start somewhere

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I disagree with you. I was raised in Shenandoah and will probably move back once I buy a house. I know a lot of families in the area that care deeply about their neighborhood and want it to be one of the premier neighborhoods in the city. With that said, if St. George does not incorporate, I will be skipping town with the rest of them so my kids can avoid the things that I witnessed at Woodlawn.

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Good luck. I rode bikes, built tree houses and hunted White Oak landing before it was a subdivision, and knew a lot of people who went to Shenandoah, Southeast, and Woodlawn back when it was being built and since, and It's not the same place it once was. They still have some good families, but it's time is coming to an end. The baby boomer bubble will create a vacuum everywhere, and Shenandoah will be no exception to that rule, but maybe they can stave it off as a last refuge for another twenty years or so.

How much is Catholic high tuition?

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When the pro SG people speak about $ are they counting on the mall and Perkins Rowe being apart of SG?

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Yes. Sales taxes make up about 84% of SG's non-dedicated annual tax revenues according to their published budget. The Bluebonnet retail district produces about $44 million of the $67 million in sales taxes they project to collect which is over half their total revenue budget.

We should all ask this question.
Why should any unincorporated area in this parish hurt the City of Baton Rouge's budget if an any unincorporated area in this parish becomes a city?

If it hurts the Baton Rouge budget we got problems in Baton Rouge and are living way beyond our means in this city.

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Oh, and everyone will still be in East Baton Rouge Parish. No one is seceding from the parish of EBR or the City of BR!

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Ummm except that it's a City/Parish. I'm pretty sure you are indeed ceding from it.