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re: Anyone following the Pigeon Forge Eminent Domain Issue?
Posted on 8/21/24 at 7:27 pm to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 8/21/24 at 7:27 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Shouldn't this have been disclosed to them prior to purchase?
That was my first question, but I don’t know how that would fit into a clean title or other standard disclosures when selling.
Seems like the out-of-towners were screwed, but I think the previous owner might have played a bigger role in the shadiness than the city officials.
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Posted on 8/21/24 at 7:33 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Shouldn't this have been disclosed to them prior to purchase?
What if they bought the property with the plan to be in this position?
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:06 am to kywildcatfanone
Government bullshite like this will stop when the shooting starts.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:12 am to kywildcatfanone
If it's okay with Dolly, it's okay with me.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:43 am to kywildcatfanone
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Not 1 single mention about the homeowner being a MILF?
The OT is slipping.
Not 1 single mention about the homeowner being a MILF?
The OT is slipping.
This post was edited on 8/22/24 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:50 am to Dixie2023
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PF is nothing but tourist dollars I’d bet so they want that RV park. ED should be outlawed. It’s not right.
ED should not be used for any private enterprise. For public works it is a necessary evil. Someone is going to be on the short end of the stick, but for the greater good i.e. infrastructure that provides transportation, energy, flood protection, etc. it is absolutely necessary for progress. Other wise nothing would ever get done. Too many NIMBYs gum up the works.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:53 am to ragincajun03
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has its place in what should be absolute last resort circumstances (think of a situation where some group like Greenpeace buying up a strip of land that is the only way to get crude oil to a refinery), but this scenario is not one of those cases.
As much as I hate green peace
I believe in property rights absolutely
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:55 am to kywildcatfanone
This is illegal thanks to scotus. Well, thanks to the constitution, but confirmed by SCOTUS
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:56 am to lostinbr
I saw a an article about this and then found the Race family's videos on YouTube. Any time I commented on their videos with the timeline or figures you posted, they would delete my comment.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 9:58 am to MintBerry Crunch
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This is illegal thanks to scotus. Well, thanks to the constitution, but confirmed by SCOTUS
I think you should review the Kelo opinion, then change illegal to legal.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:01 am to GaPhan
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Any time I commented on their videos with the timeline or figures you posted, they would delete my comment.
Makes it sound like Obtuse was onto something:
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What if they bought the property with the plan to be in this position?
Would be curious to know what the basis of the $1.5M demand is for. I realize they do not need to give a detailed explanation for the amount, just curious how they came to that on a house they paid $300k for
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:02 am to lostinbr
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- The family bought the property in August 2022 for $306,000.
- The city offered them $490,000 in October 2023.
- The family countered with $3 million.
- City countered with $539,000.
- The family countered with $1.5 million.
- At that point the city walked away from the negotiation and filed for condemnation. It says the city deposited $490k with the clerk as part of that process.
- The city has now taken ownership and it sounds like the house has been demolished.
- City is saying the family bought the house as a commercial property and that it’s zoned commercial. Apparently one of the contentious matters is the valuation as a commercial property. The city says they had it appraised as a commercial property at $490k and that the family has not submitted any other appraisal. But there’s a note in the article about how commercial properties appraise higher than residential properties so maybe that’s why the family is asking for more.
Pigs get fed, hogs gets slaughtered.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:05 am to lostinbr
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Other notes: - The family bought the property in August 2022 for $306,000. - The city offered them $490,000 in October 2023. - The family countered with $3 million. - City countered with $539,000. - The family countered with $1.5 million. - At that point the city walked away from the negotiation and filed for condemnation.
Kind of on the side of the city here. It’s one thing if it was a primary residence that was in the family for generations and had sentimental value but this is just someone looking for an unreasonable payday
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:47 am to TBoy
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The former Mayor of Broussard, Louisiana had a curve put in to the design of the La Neuvelle Road extension (Albertson’s Parkway) to put the roadway right through the Ducrest home at Morgan St. to get her back for some childhood offense. He told the lady during a public meeting that he intended to run that road right through her house.
My late Aunt that married into the Cook family of Ruston and owned a small business just up the road from LaTech that was going out of business just as the state decided to widen the road. They arranged with the help of the prominent local attorney for the road to cut just inside the front wall of the building thus giving the state ED. The buyout was just enough to make them whole.
To this day the road curves at end of that property, plainly visible. In the 80’s the cable tv office was built on the corner there.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:51 am to ragincajun03
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It has its place in what should be absolute last resort circumstances (think of a situation where some group like Greenpeace buying up a strip of land that is the only way to get crude oil to a refinery), but this scenario is not one of those cases.
It should also come at a ridiculous price to the government. They should have to pay 10x the market value of the property.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 10:58 am to CaptSpaulding
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They should have to pay 10x the market value of the property.
They being the local taxpayers?
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:09 am to lostinbr
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My take is this.. the route was planned when they bought the house. They paid $306k and were offered $539k just 14 months later. It wasn’t their primary residence. Regardless of what shenanigans went into planning the route, it’s hard for me to feel too bad at someone who was offered a 76% return on their investment after 14 months.
If they countered with $3 million after paying $306k I have no sympathy for them.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:16 am to JohnnyKilroy
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They being the local taxpayers?
If they want an RV park where I live, yea.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 11:54 am to NatalbanyTigerFan
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Not 1 single mention about the homeowner being a MILF?
Here's your one chance Fancy, flip this Pidgeon Forge shithole into an Eminent Domain squabble.
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:02 pm to CaptSpaulding
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If they want an RV park where I live, yea.
Except that wasn’t what your post was about, specifically.
You post was that all instances of eminent domain should come with a 10x market price offer.
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