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re: Anyone ever have their kid in ambulance from school?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:18 pm to ChunkyLover54
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:18 pm to ChunkyLover54
1. There is a ton of stupid advice in this thread.
2. The school will have a liability policy which a claim can be filed against but they will only pay following your personal health insurance including Medicaid.
3. You will need to contact the school to get a claim form or the policy information and open a claim with the insurance provider. Once your personal health insurance has processed their own claim, then you can provide that to the school policy provider.
4. I would contact the ambulance provider to determine if they are in network with your insurance or if your state has any balance billing laws in place. Most national insurance companies like UHC choose not to go in network with ambulance services so you could be balance billed. This is why you need to get the schools insurance info.
2. The school will have a liability policy which a claim can be filed against but they will only pay following your personal health insurance including Medicaid.
3. You will need to contact the school to get a claim form or the policy information and open a claim with the insurance provider. Once your personal health insurance has processed their own claim, then you can provide that to the school policy provider.
4. I would contact the ambulance provider to determine if they are in network with your insurance or if your state has any balance billing laws in place. Most national insurance companies like UHC choose not to go in network with ambulance services so you could be balance billed. This is why you need to get the schools insurance info.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 8:20 pm
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:18 pm to ChunkyLover54
So if this has already been stated as I haven’t read the entire thread, but most schools at least have a secondary policy to handle any out of pocket expense you have. Some schools will offer a primary policy but that’s not typical.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:26 pm to ChunkyLover54
So let me get this straight.
The EMT's administer medication without approval (ok, its an emergency in their opinion, frustrating but understandable), and your kid is still at the school when your wife arrives BUT the EMT's tell your wife she cant take her kid (regardless of the situation, I am needing a bail bondsman) because they gave the kid fentanyl (now my wife will need a criminal defense attorney to go with the bail bondsman), and then there is a chance at the end of all this I get an invoice for both the meds and the trip to the ER (and now my wife and I each need defense attorneys)?
The EMT's administer medication without approval (ok, its an emergency in their opinion, frustrating but understandable), and your kid is still at the school when your wife arrives BUT the EMT's tell your wife she cant take her kid (regardless of the situation, I am needing a bail bondsman) because they gave the kid fentanyl (now my wife will need a criminal defense attorney to go with the bail bondsman), and then there is a chance at the end of all this I get an invoice for both the meds and the trip to the ER (and now my wife and I each need defense attorneys)?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:54 pm to ChunkyLover54
Put him in a sling and throw him in the front seat of the car. Total waste of money taking an ambulance.
Kids and schools are soft now. You can thank the lawyers and our greedy litigious society for this.
Kids and schools are soft now. You can thank the lawyers and our greedy litigious society for this.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:57 pm to Basura Blanco
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So let me get this straight. The EMT's administer medication without approval (ok, its an emergency in their opinion, frustrating but understandable), and your kid is still at the school when your wife arrives BUT the EMT's tell your wife she cant take her kid (regardless of the situation, I am needing a bail bondsman) because they gave the kid fentanyl (now my wife will need a criminal defense attorney to go with the bail bondsman), and then there is a chance at the end of all this I get an invoice for both the meds and the trip to the ER (and now my wife and I each need defense attorneys)?
That’s exactly what many are saying in this thread.
Let’s just assume that school boards and the teachers have our best interests in mind. Just pay the bill.
I have a direct anecdotal opinion on how one of the better districts operate. All I’m saying is that there is no way I’m letting people with online training dictate the care for my child. They would have to take me to court before any of this would happen.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:10 pm to nealnan8
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The school made the decision to give him the meds. The school made the decision to put him in the ambulance (unless the mother directed them to). Seems like the school would be liable for costs incurred in the long run.
The child was injured in a way that required a hospital visit, and they called to get that medical treatment in progress instead of letting him just sit in pain.
Morally if they talked to the family they should’ve mentioned the track they had him on, but it’s possible the nurse was handling that and a secretary called the family and it was an innocent miscommunication in following an otherwise reasonable treatment path.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:21 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:And if they wouldn’t have called 911 for this child with a dislocated shoulder and there would have been complications you would have sued them for not acting. Jesus Christ, they took care of the child, they acted in the best interest of the kid with the parent not at the school. And BTW, you wouldn’t have needed a defense attorney because you wouldn’t have done anything as they were taking care of your child in pain with a dislocated shoulder. I’ve actually been in this situation a hundred times and when you explain to the parent what’s going on and why, they are very appreciative and cooperative, never had a hot head like you are claiming to be.
The EMT's administer medication without approval (ok, its an emergency in their opinion, frustrating but understandable), and your kid is still at the school when your wife arrives BUT the EMT's tell your wife she cant take her kid (regardless of the situation, I am needing a bail bondsman) because they gave the kid fentanyl (now my wife will need a criminal defense attorney to go with the bail bondsman), and then there is a chance at the end of all this I get an invoice for both the meds and the trip to the ER (and now my wife and I each need defense attorneys)?
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:38 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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Seems odd they would give Narcotics to a kid without permission. Typically you have to sign a consent form for them to give your kid an Aspirin.
26 year paramedic, this is absolutely not true. School maybe, absolutely not an ambulance. If parents aren’t on scene and we are transporting, kid is in pain, we do not need parental consent to give narcotics
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:39 pm to marigny
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What if he was allergic?
You get that information from the school, who gets it from the parents
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:42 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:what do you think they are gonna do to your kid? Jesus. He was hurt. He got treatment. Fentanyl has been safely given for quite a long time.
The EMT's administer medication without approval (ok, its an emergency in their opinion, frustrating but understandable), and your kid is still at the school when your wife arrives BUT the EMT's tell your wife she cant take her kid (regardless of the situation, I am needing a bail bondsman) because they gave the kid fentanyl (now my wife will need a criminal defense attorney to go with the bail bondsman), and then there is a chance at the end of all this I get an invoice for both the meds and the trip to the ER (and now my wife and I each need defense attorneys)?
Sounds to me the child was cared for and all turned out ok
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:42 pm to ChunkyLover54
Well, if they had treated him any different would you feel better about the situation? Judging by the responses in this thread, most would be preparing to sue regardless of the situation….which is the problem, IMO.
Your boy got hurt and that is an unfortunate accident…nothing more. It sounds to me like the school did exactly what they should have done.
Your boy got hurt and that is an unfortunate accident…nothing more. It sounds to me like the school did exactly what they should have done.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:47 pm to Spankum
quote:no shite. This is a sue happy place. God I’d hate to bump one of their fenders. They prob travel w c collars
Judging by the responses in this thread, most would be preparing to sue regardless of the situation…
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:51 pm to Boston911
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Honest question, do you believe the paramedics on scene looked at this child and said “if we give him Pain management then we can transport him and make the company a lot of money”
I see your point and you are correct. 99% of medics hate their company and don’t give a shite about “making them extra money”
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:52 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
The EMT's administer medication without approval (ok, its an emergency in their opinion, frustrating but understandable), and your kid is still at the school when your wife arrives BUT the EMT's tell your wife she cant take her kid (regardless of the situation, I am needing a bail bondsman) because they gave the kid fentanyl (now my wife will need a criminal defense attorney to go with the bail bondsman), and then there is a chance at the end of all this I get an invoice for both the meds and the trip to the ER (and now my wife and I each need defense attorneys)?
Maybe learn the difference between emt and paramedic before making a dumb arse post
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:55 pm to redstickrick
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ETA: Your best bang for your buck is to email your school board rep, put on your best disappointed dad tone, and they will probably want to make this disappear before it gets on facebook with it.
He should email them a link to this thread....
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:01 pm to redstickrick
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Your best bang for your buck is to email your school board rep, put on your best disappointed dad tone, and they will probably want to make this disappear before it gets on facebook with it. My thought... "I would never have consented to the narcotics for my kid if you had told us it would result in an unconsented ambulance ride." That way you're really arguing the narcotic instead of the ambulance ride, which they are probably more scared of a suit on the narcotics than the little ambulance bill. Then they pay the ambulance bill to make you go
away and everyone is happy.
Or OP could have kept his kid on a leash and this wouldn’t have happened. Here’s the truth, he won’t admit it, if school hadn’t called ems he’d be pissed about that also. Responded to schools daily, dealing with parents afterwards was one of the things that makes people want to quit, they suck, want money, suck at life, parenting, and blame it on everyone else. Keep your kid on a leash, that way you can make 100% of decisions for them
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:03 pm to ChunkyLover54
Your medical insurance won’t cover this?$5000 seems extremely excessive
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:51 pm to Mushroom1968
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Here’s the truth, he won’t admit it, if school hadn’t called ems he’d be pissed about that also
I’m not necessarily pissed at anyone and I think the school handled it well by calling the professionals. I’m happy with the outcome.
The whole situation overall sucks and I’m oissed about that, sure.
This happened this week and there’s a lot I don’t know. Starting to look into this part and given the weird circumstances just looking for perspective.
Also not looking to sue anyone
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:54 pm to Gorilla Ball
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Your medical insurance won’t cover this?$5000 seems extremely excessive
Don’t know yet. Called insurance and depends on a lot of details like how it’s charged and processed.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:01 pm to Lonnie Utah
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He should email them a link to this thread....
Link will be in my signature in the email
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