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re: Anyone ever have their kid in ambulance from school?
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:39 am to ChunkyLover54
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:39 am to ChunkyLover54
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Anyone ever have their kid in ambulance from school?
Did you mean Amber Lamps?
Posted on 12/2/23 at 9:45 am to ChunkyLover54
This sounds like a situation that should be covered in some sort of contract/agreement beforehand when enrolling your kid. I would imagine there's some sort of standard procedure to be followed
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:14 am to ChunkyLover54
OP, I reread and my apologies. Night before last up all night with a stomach virus, delirious last night after staying up watching HS football game streaming. I completely misread your OP. Thought you were simply asking if it was ok for medics to give narcotics w/o parental consent if parents aren't there. You kind of asked that but I"m reading it clearer now.
A medic cannot force your child in an ambulance if parent is there stating they don't want them to ride, unless it's life or death situation. So in this scenario, it sounds like the medic was in the wrong. I agree, probably shouldn't have given narcotics like that, I assume knowing parent was on the way. If medics didn't realize it, and parent showed up after I can understand medic's point of view. Personally, I'd have tried to discuss with mom that I gave narcotic and would feel more comfortable with us transporting, but if mom was adament she transports, I'd absolutely give in and have child get in vehicle. I would document the shite out of it, call ER and let the doctor know what happens, let my boss at work know.
Sorry for being a smart arse last night, my fault.
A medic cannot force your child in an ambulance if parent is there stating they don't want them to ride, unless it's life or death situation. So in this scenario, it sounds like the medic was in the wrong. I agree, probably shouldn't have given narcotics like that, I assume knowing parent was on the way. If medics didn't realize it, and parent showed up after I can understand medic's point of view. Personally, I'd have tried to discuss with mom that I gave narcotic and would feel more comfortable with us transporting, but if mom was adament she transports, I'd absolutely give in and have child get in vehicle. I would document the shite out of it, call ER and let the doctor know what happens, let my boss at work know.
Sorry for being a smart arse last night, my fault.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:15 am to Boston911
I don’t know. But I was sent to ER from my doctors office and was not charged because I didn’t want to go but he had to send me because of symptoms I was having and not allowed to drive myself.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 11:32 am to tigernurse
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Usually it does. Not sure why in the OP’s case it didn’t.
Because OP is ranting before receiving a bill or even looking into his potential costshare/copay or school insurance coverage. It is essentially a rant about nothing anticipating he might potentially get a big bill.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:32 pm to Mushroom1968
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Maybe learn the difference between emt and paramedic before making a dumb arse post
Nahhh, I'm good.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:41 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
The issue began with giving him narcotics. Once they were given, he had to take the ambulance. EMTs won’t give narcotics unless they will supervise the patient all the way to the hospital and hand them over to doctors/nurses there.
The question is if they were authorized to give him the narcotics bc once they are given the ambulance wasn’t optional.
The question is if they were authorized to give him the narcotics bc once they are given the ambulance wasn’t optional.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:56 pm to Boston911
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And if they wouldn’t have called 911 for this child with a dislocated shoulder and there would have been complications you would have sued them for not acting
I have never sued nor considered suing anyone for anything in my life. Its laughable to even think of doing so in a case such as this. I get it. They are doing their job like they have been trained. I might not like it, but I'm not calling a damn lawyer over it, regardless of the outcome of a separated shoulder incident.
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And BTW, you wouldn’t have needed a defense attorney because you wouldn’t have done anything as they were taking care of your child in pain with a dislocated shoulder.
I have no issue with the EMT/Paramedics taking care of my child. I would have a small issue with fentanyl for pain due to personal family related reasons, but I would understand the process. Unfortunately, and as stated in my post, it is my wife who would have a much more emotional reaction.
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’ve actually been in this situation a hundred times and when you explain to the parent what’s going on and why, they are very appreciative and cooperative, never had a hot head like you are claiming to be.
I will take it on face value you are good at your job and that would go a long way to us having a very cordial non eventful conversation. But there is no explaining that would convince me you cant release my child to me in a non-life threatening situation for transport while he is still at his school because you gave him some medication. And if you are indeed good at your job and have some common sense, you would have me sign some shite and release my child to my care. If not we would have a much different conversation. If that makes me a hot head, so be it.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 2:27 pm to Basura Blanco
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I would have a small issue with fentanyl for pain due to personal family related reasons,
Tell the school he is allergic to all pain medicines then. At least opioids. When they relay that to medics they aren't going to give your child any.
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But there is no explaining that would convince me you cant release my child to me in a non-life threatening situation for transport while he is still at his school because you gave him some medication. And if you are indeed good at your job and have some common sense, you would have me sign some shite and release my child to my care. If not we would have a much different conversation. If that makes me a hot head, so be it.
You are 100% correct on this. Non-life threatening, You don't want your child in an ambulance, even if I just gave Fentanyl, I have to give them to you. I will absolutely cordially try and talk you out of it, but I'm not kidnapping your child. That's why we are supposed to document very well.
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