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re: Anyone believe in the afterlife?

Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by A Yankee
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:15 pm to
Of course there is an afterlife

The following people will go to heaven:
Christians (except Roman Catholics, Mormons, Jehova's Witness)

Who won't: Everyone else

Freemasons are there own religion no they are not Christians as they claim, they worship Lucifer.(this includes freemasonic groups such as Shriners, Scottish Rite, Demolay, Job's Daughters, etc.

Any other fake religion, cults, Secret Societies, Scientology, admitted Satanism, etc.

Nonbelievers of course will not go there we know from scripture, so no Atheists or agnostics.
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9497 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:17 pm to
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Yup, just bc there isn’t concrete proof of something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.


Yep. Like explaining algebra to a guinea pig, it doesn't have the capacity. I feel we are like that as well.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:19 pm to
I’m struggling to believe in it.

Both possibilities seem equally plausible to me:

A) Something beyond our comprehension is responsible for all of existence and created life with a purpose in mind. Christianity speaks of the glorification of God through the universe and our human experience with sin and salvation. I can see that being a good explanation for all of this and the afterlife being a reward or a continuation of what God has planned. Why else would anything exist?

B) There is no point to life besides the physics behind protein replication. We’re a complex process explained by chemistry and “life” on Earth should be seen as no more unique that the red storm on Jupiter. Both required particular conditions to exist at a point in time and neither has any purpose for the overall universe. We’ve rationalized our existence as having meaning solely because it’s what species propagation requires: a meaning to continue fighting for survival, existence, replication. In the end, we are but dust in the ground that was once the elements of a star that was once part of the Big Bang, which most likely was one of an infinite series of Bangs happening across the multiverse for all of eternity.

Both make sense to me.

Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:22 pm to
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The following people will go to heaven:
Christians
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19457 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:32 pm to
What if deja vu is our timeline resetting because something happened shortly after that led to or resulted in our death? Anyone else always get a feeling that something bad happened or was about to happen with deja vu?
Posted by A Yankee
Member since Oct 2019
150 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:32 pm to
Just read The Bible, it will tell you in there what will happen after death. Nothing Christians should be afraid of.

People who are afraid of death are the ones who sold their souls to Satan and know what awaits them.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28262 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:34 pm to
No... and the thing is, i'm just as right and wrong as anyone that does... because no one KNOWS that there is one... you can sincerely, truly, totally believe there is, but that is not, in fact, KNOWING there is one...

maybe there is, maybe there isn't... i'd rather worry about making the one that i KNOW, for a fact, that i have, the best that it can be...
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28262 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:36 pm to
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There is no point to life besides the physics behind protein replication. We’re a complex process explained by chemistry and “life” on Earth should be seen as no more unique that the red storm on Jupiter. Both required particular conditions to exist at a point in time and neither has any purpose for the overall universe. We’ve rationalized our existence as having meaning solely because it’s what species propagation requires: a meaning to continue fighting for survival, existence, replication. In the end, we are but dust in the ground that was once the elements of a star that was once part of the Big Bang, which most likely was one of an infinite series of Bangs happening across the multiverse for all of eternity.

this is exactly the way I feel as well... this is well though out and written/explained... kudos
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 9:39 pm to
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If you suck it up in this life, you have to come back as oweo.

Sweet, Oweo is the only person in the world who doesn't have to hear his bullshite.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5896 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:02 pm to
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But something happened to me that lead me to start questioning whether or not there is something out there. I still didn’t believe though. However, after going to school, and learning all the incalculable “coincidences” that had to have occurred for us to exist, I came to the conclusion that it makes no sense to conclude that life as we know spontaneously came into existence.


Life has changed gradually and become more complex over the course of several hundred million years. There were no rabbits 100 million years ago and there are no T-Rexes today. The earliest organisms were single-celled and modern humans have only been around about 200,000 years. The Earth existed for a few billion years before rudimentary life first appeared and the Universe itself is much older than that.

It's been a clear progression from the simple to the complex over a very long period of time and I'm willing accept some gaps in our knowledge here and there and defer to future generations to fill them. The history of science has shown us that crediting a deity for something we do not currently understand is very, very, very short-sighted.
Posted by A Yankee
Member since Oct 2019
150 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15329 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:13 pm to
Yes. I pray every day to spend it in the right place.
Posted by Del Devereaux
West Hollywood, CA
Member since Dec 2011
873 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:45 pm to
After Forever - Black Sabbath

“Have you ever thought about your soul and can it be saved?
Or perhaps you think that when you are dead you just stay in your grave...
Is God just a thought within your head or is he part of you?
Is Christ just a name that you read in a book when you were in school?”

While we’re on the subject, Ozzy & Black Sabbath pose a few questions of their own about the next life....
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:48 pm to
I wish but no. just no.

this world is beyond messed up. and it sucks because I dream that an afterlife could save us

why?

because none of us realize how badly the boomers fukked us all in our current world.

and even once the Boomers die off, the Gen-Xers that were taught by the boomers will likely just do the same shite, and the cycle with trudge on until people wake up, or everything falls apart due to the long-term unsustainability of the system we have.

i'm banking more on the latter,

i don't think the majority of people will wake up to reality on their own, they will have to be forced by the inevitable fall of the western empire as we know.

it's all terribly depressing
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted by David Bowman
Member since Jul 2019
234 posts
Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:58 pm to
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how badly the boomers fukked us all in our current world.


This is getting so tiresome.
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 6:47 am to
Most Americans believe in it enough to go to church and identify as Christians just in case...but not enough to give up their sinful life or commit to anything seriously.

Sort of like car insurance.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37957 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:23 am to
Well yeah.
Heaven gonna be lit son!!
Posted by bperki6
The light side of the moon
Member since Feb 2008
591 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:32 am to
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This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 11:46 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:36 am to
life is an endless road of searching, we search and search for many things. We search for glory, power, etc everyone sets themselves up as the main character, and chases after these little trophies to distract them from one thing, the one thing that's waiting for all of us ... death.

so don't feel sad friend, when you think of how much others have think of how they will have to lose it all one day, how no matter what you do or what you try to do one day all your choices, and decisions will lead to nothing.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17232 posts
Posted on 10/11/19 at 7:58 am to
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t's silly to say "definitely no"..

Cause being alive as it is..is really a strange concept to begin with. We are conditioned to not see it as an anomaly because we are it.

I'm willing to say, I refuse to believe that with man's limited imagination and capacity that we have even scratched the surface.

So I guess what I'm saying is that i believe anything is possible.



This broadly encapsulates my feelings. It seems like an entirely reasonable and thoughtful position to me but for some reason it drives some religious people and atheists both up a tree.
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