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re: Anybody else have friends freaking out about ATT/verizon

Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:17 am to
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:17 am to
Just left the Verizon store, issue with switching is I would have to buy 3 new phones and 2 new tablets as none of my current stuff will work.

I just bought the tablets with att 3 weeks ago and my wife and I both have the newest iPhone.

Doesn't seem worth it if I have to shell out a couple grand for 5 new devices
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:26 am to
You can sell all that stuff. It's not worthless.
Posted by BarnHater
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:41 am to
Lots of socialists ITT..
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7274 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 11:57 am to
quote:

They neglect their equipment and delay upgrades. This goes for their wireless and landline phones.


This sounds like one of those old wives tales. Like when the oil industry tanked 80% of river ranch in Lafayette couldn't even afford to keep the power on.

Unless you're a failry high up manager for AT&T, you have no idea if they neglect their equipment or delay upgrades.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Unless you're a failry high up manager for AT&T, you have no idea if they neglect their equipment or delay upgrades.
We all have a pretty good idea.

It's pretty well established that AT&T's outage came down to the fact that one particular facility flooded, correct? That's a single point of failure for a relatively large area of coverage. SPOF's are avoided at all costs by companies that give a shite about their service. AT&T apparently does not give a shite.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7274 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:37 pm to
Since Baton Rouge is "relatively large" on their scale.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75889 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:37 pm to
Not only that, but we are talking about standard practices in the communications/networking/IT realm.

Kork is correct, it's at the least, laziness not to have a failover system in place servicing this many customers.

quote:

thegreatboudini


sighhh
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

This sounds like one of those old wives tales. Like when the oil industry tanked 80% of river ranch in Lafayette couldn't even afford to keep the power on.

Unless you're a failry high up manager for AT&T, you have no idea if they neglect their equipment or delay upgrades.



I know someone that is involved with the land procurement for new towers & switches. She told us that AT&T is constantly moving old equipment in and out of locations to band-aid problems instead of upgrading to what other carriers are using and that's when there isn't a catastrophe going on. They dropped the ball here. There are some parts of Denham that still can't get service.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Since Baton Rouge is "relatively large" on their scale.
I know Baton Rouge (and the surrounding areas) don't matter to AT&T. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. AT&T doesn't give a shite about hundreds of thousands of people.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

it's at the least, laziness not to have a failover system in place servicing this many customers.
And if redundancy isn't an option, then you have to plan for and engineer away as many potential problems as possible. Like, for example, water in south Louisiana.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

I know someone that is involved with the land procurement for new towers & switches. She told us that AT&T is constantly moving old equipment in and out of locations to band-aid problems instead of upgrading to what other carriers are using and that's when there isn't a catastrophe going on. They dropped the ball here. There are some parts of Denham that still can't get service.

Anecdotes typically don't mean anything, but when you put enough of them together sometimes a pattern becomes clear.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7274 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:47 pm to
But they give a shite enough to allow me to continue having unlimited talk text and data for $90.

Oh, and I was one of the hundreds of thousands too. Just like everyone else that was flooded in and couldn't get somewhere for whatever it may be, AT&T was also dealing with it. Along with Sprint, t-mobile, etc etc.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

But they give a shite enough to allow me to continue having unlimited talk text and data for $90.
Oh my god, they allow you to give them money? How fricking thoughtful.
quote:

Oh, and I was one of the hundreds of thousands too. Just like everyone else that was flooded in and couldn't get somewhere for whatever it may be, AT&T was also dealing with it. Along with Sprint, t-mobile, etc etc.
But here's the thing... AT&T's failures made it harder for everyone to deal with the situation.

If this is the only trouble you've ever had with AT&T, count yourself lucky. It should be obvious that I have a long history of dealing with AT&T's failures, and I suspect many other people do, too.
Posted by tigahfromtheham
On your left
Member since Jun 2005
5868 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

It should be obvious that I have a long history of dealing with AT&T's failures


We can tell
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41609 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:33 pm to
I don't think I paid for Sprint for 3 months after Katrina.

Katrina was also when I learned how to text message. I had never sent a text before that time. Remember back then, most carriers had text message packages you had to buy - 100 texts a month, 300 texts a month, etc. And then you had to pay 40 cents per text for overage. But Sprint said they would make it free for us since it was easier on the network to text rather than call.

AT&T probably should not make things free per se as that will drive up usage on their still damaged network. But they should absolutely not charge people for the down time. And they need to find a way to make it right for people who have struggled to use their service.

I don't fault them necessairly for what happened - crap happens and a lot of people never thought the would flood. But AT&T needs to fix this and make right by their customers.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Oh, and I was one of the hundreds of thousands too. Just like everyone else that was flooded in and couldn't get somewhere for whatever it may be, AT&T was also dealing with it. Along with Sprint, t-mobile, etc etc.


Except all of these companies didn't lose their signal.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7274 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:41 pm to
They did where I was.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40289 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:42 pm to
I hope the loyalists stay with them.

Don't want them gumming up my network...
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:44 pm to
Google Fi worked flawlessly for me through out this entire flood. LTE network and no dropped calls.

Phone bill averages $35 a month. Neighbors were coming over to use my phone since it was the only one on the street that worked.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40289 posts
Posted on 8/18/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

it's at the least, laziness not to have a failover system in place servicing this many customers.


Absolutely correct.

For reference, see the AT&T failures after Katrina.

Same issue, flooded switch.


11 years later, lessons learned= 0
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