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re: Any West Point grads
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:01 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:01 pm to Cheese Grits
quote:Texas A&M is salivating at this prospect.
If he is hung ho and does not make the cut
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Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:09 pm to Tenfold
I highly recommend applying to and trying to visit all five service academies. 1 in 14 applicants get an appointment each year.
Merchant Marine grads can chose to be commissioned in any branch of service.
If your son is JR this year then I would recommend applying for a Summer Leadership Experience position. My understanding is this essentially a week long "camp" where you get to see if you like West Point or Navy and they get to see if they like you. Kind of like a college internship.
Contact admissions office to see if can get in touch with Field Force rep. Contact congressman or senators to get information on when they are hosting their Academy Day.
I'll be more than happy to help.
Merchant Marine grads can chose to be commissioned in any branch of service.
If your son is JR this year then I would recommend applying for a Summer Leadership Experience position. My understanding is this essentially a week long "camp" where you get to see if you like West Point or Navy and they get to see if they like you. Kind of like a college internship.
Contact admissions office to see if can get in touch with Field Force rep. Contact congressman or senators to get information on when they are hosting their Academy Day.
I'll be more than happy to help.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:10 pm to Tenfold
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This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:29 pm to TheOcean
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west pointers in the army. They were either awesome or complete shitheads. No in between
I was enlisted but had a number in my chain of command, this is true. They were either the gold standard or dogshit.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:48 pm to armytiger96
He is going into his senior year. Only 16 years old. Skipped a grade. So not as physical or mentally mature as some of his 18 yr old buddies. Big and strong but not some skinny type.
He is going to a meeting in September where they have congressmen and people from West Point, I assume, it’s in Baton Rouge at the Pennington center something. So yes we have contacted local congressional leaders.
My understanding is that other prospective students will be in attendance.
My son loves this country and our flag. He is the only kid on the football team with a flag on his letterman jackets. Has flag, American not gay, on his golf clubs and going to paint the Flag in his senior parking space. He is not like over the top and it not life or death if he doesn’t get in. He just a decent kid with great grades and looking for a place.
He is going to a meeting in September where they have congressmen and people from West Point, I assume, it’s in Baton Rouge at the Pennington center something. So yes we have contacted local congressional leaders.
My understanding is that other prospective students will be in attendance.
My son loves this country and our flag. He is the only kid on the football team with a flag on his letterman jackets. Has flag, American not gay, on his golf clubs and going to paint the Flag in his senior parking space. He is not like over the top and it not life or death if he doesn’t get in. He just a decent kid with great grades and looking for a place.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:50 pm to Tenfold
Went to grad school with quite a few service academy guys -- one i'm best friends with is a West Point grad.
I think generally the consensus is if they had to do it all over again, they would.
From what I gathered, year one is tough at West Point, but after that you have a lot more autonomy and freedom (relatively speaking). For instance, you could do PT on your own time vs the arse crack of dawn.
It's certainly going to be a different experience from LSU / big university, but it could be very rewarding or absolutely miserable based on how committed one is to wanting to achieve that goal.
I went with him to a football game vs Air Force, which was a cool experience. We could drink at the alumni center right outside the gates which had free alcohol, but once you stepped fully in, no alcohol. At the end of the day, it is a military base.
I think generally the consensus is if they had to do it all over again, they would.
From what I gathered, year one is tough at West Point, but after that you have a lot more autonomy and freedom (relatively speaking). For instance, you could do PT on your own time vs the arse crack of dawn.
It's certainly going to be a different experience from LSU / big university, but it could be very rewarding or absolutely miserable based on how committed one is to wanting to achieve that goal.
I went with him to a football game vs Air Force, which was a cool experience. We could drink at the alumni center right outside the gates which had free alcohol, but once you stepped fully in, no alcohol. At the end of the day, it is a military base.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:51 pm to MrSpock
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I'd steer clear of this board. They'll convince you your son is better off slinging wrenches and freon
This. It’s ridiculous the amount of people that suggest you should skip college to become a plumber. “Because they make soooo much money”
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:51 pm to Tenfold
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Any West Point grads
Worked there for a time... What do you want to know?
Posted on 8/5/24 at 4:56 pm to Tenfold
Me and my son both could have went - my dad really wanted me to go and then later my son. I don’t think neither one of us would have done well. Just not for us. Too rigid. It’s great for some people though.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:05 pm to Tenfold
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Any West Point grads
My training buddy at the gym is a West Point grad. Played QB. Got out about 10 years ago as an O4 and was a Ranger. One of son's buddies from high school played baseball for Army and graduated last year. He is Artillery and is at Fort Sill. My co-workers son plays Soccer for them right now.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:14 pm to Tenfold
Your son is trying to tell you he is gay…..
Just kidding, good on your son to want to serve and attend an academy. I went thru the small school in Annapolis many moons ago. My experience there is like a fine wine, it gets better with age.
Early in life I hated the fact I didn’t have the typical “college experience” but as I get older I really appreciate everything the academy set me up for in life.
Just kidding, good on your son to want to serve and attend an academy. I went thru the small school in Annapolis many moons ago. My experience there is like a fine wine, it gets better with age.
Early in life I hated the fact I didn’t have the typical “college experience” but as I get older I really appreciate everything the academy set me up for in life.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:23 pm to Tenfold
If your son is only 16 and skipped a grade, and is a little behind his peers in maturity, AND he is really interested in a service academy, perhaps one of those service academy prep schools would be worth looking into for him.
Could either confirm his interest or save a lot of misery.
Could either confirm his interest or save a lot of misery.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:33 pm to shadyone2
My cousin went and hated it. Dad wouldn’t let him come home. He graduated and worked for Microsoft and retired a multimillion. He lived in Seattle for a long time. Now lives in Austin, Tex. He never had a relationship with his dad again. Sad.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:35 pm to Tenfold
Why would you need to know the experiences at the US Military Academy. It's the same school Robert E Lee and Ulysses S Grant went to and throw in George Patton, Omar Bradley and Dwight Eisenhower. Do you need an opinion? They teach kids leadership and military stuff.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:37 pm to Tenfold
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My son loves this country and our flag.
Flag is just a flag
To love and serve his country is to love and serve those around them. Don't be distracted by fabric and lose sight of the human.
One of my primary mentors as a youth was West Point guy. As some said above - are a$$holes from entitlement and arrogance but this guy was the quiet one but tough as a coffin nail.
His size or age will not matter if his heart is his best asset. Buddy of mine was the runt but got in by sheer force of will. Broke a primary bone in his body about half way through his first year. Lost the whole year and had to start all over again the next year but did it without complaint. Could care less if he could carry a flag but by god he would be my first choice under fire in my unit. Real fine example of an old school God & Country guy.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:39 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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They’ll either come out gay or communist.
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Wow!!!
Well…
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:43 pm to DesScorp
Goal should be to get to be their commanding officer.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:20 pm to Tenfold
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He is going into his senior year. Only 16 years old.
When does he turn 17? If he isn't 17 by R day he may not be eligible for the Class of 2029.
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He is going to a meeting in September where they have congressmen and people from West Point
I haven't attended but my understanding its a giant information session that gives information on each of the academies, the application process and the nomination process. Yes there will be several others there trying to decide if they want to apply as well.
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My son loves this country and our flag. He is the only kid on the football team with a flag on his letterman jackets.
This is great and all, but you've yet to mention he wants to be an officer in the U.S. Army. This needs to be the primary reason he plans to attend the academy. Without this desire he's wasting his time and the taxpayers money. (I'm not insinuating he needs to a career officer)
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He has a 4.5 gpa. Genuinely a nice kid, looks you in the eye when you speak, shake your hand and a yes sir type.
Sounds like he's a great kid and will do extremely well in life. Just know that the appointments are extremely competitive and in any given year there will be another 20+ applicants in the area with similar credentials. You can find a snapshot of each classes qualification stats online.
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He not a skinny athletic type, plays football on the O line and D line.
He will have physical fitness test as part of the application process. He may want to focus on getting ready for this. May be something to ask Field Force rep about. From my experience test is not geared towards OL or DL types.
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. I’m not sure how to guide him as he is young wanting to do his best in whatever path.
In my opinion this isn't something you "guide" him towards. Help him yes but don't guide him. Realize this is a decision that will be at a minimum a 10 year commitment and unfortunately put him in a profession that could lead to paying the ultimate sacrifice. It has to be his calling otherwise he will be miserable.
As others have mentioned it's not always the best place to be at but it is a great place to be from. I have yet to come across a grad who has said I wish I would have gone to regular college and believe most of us would do it all over again.
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Have him read the candidates book.
I agree with this. He should also read Absolutely American, which a friend of mine who is mentioned in book says "It will tell you the good, bad, and the ugly of the cadet experience."
I recommend you and your son both read Grit by Angela Duckworth.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:40 pm to armytiger96
Have him read the candidates book.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 6:43 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Wow!!!
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