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re: Any Viet Nam vets here? do you want to share your experience?
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:44 am to I B Freeman
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:44 am to I B Freeman
I had two uncles who were in Vietnam. Twin brothers who were U.S. Marines. They were not allowed to be over there at the same time, so one was there 68-69, then the other went over from 69-70. One came back okay, but had PTSD for the rest of his life. Loud noises, etc. would make him jumpy. The other came back really screwed up. Became an alcoholic, couldn’t hold a steady job, nightmares, PTSD. He was still a good person though. Neither talked much about their service.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:52 am to I B Freeman
from an old vietnam friend:
- you didn't get too close to the guys around you because they may be dead the next morning
- you very seldom saw what you were shooting at. most of the time, you just shot at muzzle flashes.
- weed was everywhere and you could have it anytime you wanted
- the rounds were so loud that his hearing is still terrible to this day
- fear for snakes goes away after about 2 months.
- nothing in south la compares to the bugs that were there
- when he hears people complaining of foot issues,
- you didn't get too close to the guys around you because they may be dead the next morning
- you very seldom saw what you were shooting at. most of the time, you just shot at muzzle flashes.
- weed was everywhere and you could have it anytime you wanted
- the rounds were so loud that his hearing is still terrible to this day
- fear for snakes goes away after about 2 months.
- nothing in south la compares to the bugs that were there
- when he hears people complaining of foot issues,
Posted on 10/24/19 at 6:59 am to ninthward
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Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol (LRRP), 173rd Airborne Brigade
My dad was with this unit in Vietnam and he was at Dak To. He never went into any depth about what he saw but some of the comments he'd make from time to time was enough to make your skin crawl.
He did say that his entire platoon was killed, along with his company commander, trying to take a hill and most of the rest of his company was killed by friendly fire when a 500lb bomb was dropped on their location by accident.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:05 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Dak To in '68
Nov 1967
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:17 am to LSUERDOC
My Dad was with the USMC 1/5 1967. He was involved in operation Union and Union 2 (Que Sung Valley mostly, I believe)
In the last 5 years or so he has been going to some reunions and talking with one of the guys he served with on a regular basis. I think it has helped him a good bit.
I didn't notice any problems he had growing up but I can see now things were pretty tough on him and still are at times.
I have heard a fair amount of stories and a few from his friend. Can't even imagine watching a friend take his last breath while asking for Mama...
He always said booby traps scared him way more than a fire fight.
In the last 5 years or so he has been going to some reunions and talking with one of the guys he served with on a regular basis. I think it has helped him a good bit.
I didn't notice any problems he had growing up but I can see now things were pretty tough on him and still are at times.
I have heard a fair amount of stories and a few from his friend. Can't even imagine watching a friend take his last breath while asking for Mama...
He always said booby traps scared him way more than a fire fight.
This post was edited on 10/24/19 at 7:23 am
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:31 am to duckdude
Somebody said snake and reminded me of a story I read and My Dad remembers hearing.
A new marine on his first day was bitten twice by boa's the second time he fell in a pit with a boa and it took awhile for them to get him out while the snake chewed on him. The next morning he woke up and his hair had turned white. They sent him home because he lost his mind.
The story was in a book "Road of 10,000 Pains" it's about Marines of the 2/5 in 67 which shared some of the same operations that my Dad was in. Good book, I heard stories of how bad the M16 was at first but until I read that book I had no idea how many Marines died because of that B.S.
A new marine on his first day was bitten twice by boa's the second time he fell in a pit with a boa and it took awhile for them to get him out while the snake chewed on him. The next morning he woke up and his hair had turned white. They sent him home because he lost his mind.
The story was in a book "Road of 10,000 Pains" it's about Marines of the 2/5 in 67 which shared some of the same operations that my Dad was in. Good book, I heard stories of how bad the M16 was at first but until I read that book I had no idea how many Marines died because of that B.S.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:57 am to duckdude
I told this story here once. Just to get an idea of their brotherhood or whatever you wish to call it.
I was in Vegas in 2006-08. I played golf at Rio Secco which is a 30-45 minute trip. Took an “executive shuttle” back. 60 ish year old black man in a sweet Escalade. I was by myself and decided to split the ride with a group in the clubhouse waiting. Two sons and their dad. Dad and the driver were both in Vietnam. I can’t recall what brought it up. Just a 45 minute ride. Something small like a marine logo on something?
Anyway they get to talking. They were both in Vietnam at near the same time and pretty close to each other. Dates and units and camp info all checked out between the two of them. With a nod or a grunt of approval or “whew”. I was in the front seat so I could see the drivers face and the dads face through angles in the mirrors and reflection. I realized as they talked, the driver was welling up. Mind you ZERO stories were told. The two sons were dead silent like “oh shite dads talking about Vietnam”.
When the ride ended the driver got out and pulled the dads bag out first. They hugged and cried!! Perfect strangers who met less than an hour prior. One black and one white. Me and the two sons didn’t make a fricking peep. Lol
I was in Vegas in 2006-08. I played golf at Rio Secco which is a 30-45 minute trip. Took an “executive shuttle” back. 60 ish year old black man in a sweet Escalade. I was by myself and decided to split the ride with a group in the clubhouse waiting. Two sons and their dad. Dad and the driver were both in Vietnam. I can’t recall what brought it up. Just a 45 minute ride. Something small like a marine logo on something?
Anyway they get to talking. They were both in Vietnam at near the same time and pretty close to each other. Dates and units and camp info all checked out between the two of them. With a nod or a grunt of approval or “whew”. I was in the front seat so I could see the drivers face and the dads face through angles in the mirrors and reflection. I realized as they talked, the driver was welling up. Mind you ZERO stories were told. The two sons were dead silent like “oh shite dads talking about Vietnam”.
When the ride ended the driver got out and pulled the dads bag out first. They hugged and cried!! Perfect strangers who met less than an hour prior. One black and one white. Me and the two sons didn’t make a fricking peep. Lol
Posted on 10/24/19 at 7:57 am to LSUERDOC
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Nov 1967
Thanks, man. I was going off memory as its been a good many years since he talked about it.
I have all his unit info and who he was attached to as FO, but won't post it here for obvious reasons. He said in the overrun of the firebase, he saw one of his men running, get knocked down by an explosion, and get back up and try to run in the mud - minus a foot. The only time I ever heard him say about actually killing someone was when a NVA stepped out from behind a tree to shoot and he shot him - and the same time his '16 back end blew off. Killed the guy and his weapon was useless - I think he only mentioned that because we were talking about the '16. His stories, when told, made one think how in the hell has he seen so much shite and still be this awesome uncle?
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:09 am to Spaceman Spiff
Not the most riveting story but ..... my dad was a dentist in the Navy stationed in San Diego aboard a hospital ship. They were deployed to Vietnam and while underway the ship had major mechanical issues and was returned to SD. Another ship was sent instead. He wouldn't have seen any action obviously but it worked out good for the crew being able to stay home with families etc. He had to do reconstructive dental work on soldiers returned from nam and he said it was life-changing/altering. Guys with their faces scalded/ part blown off, some blind, missing limbs, ears, etc. Sad all around.
Like I said, not the greatest story but guess I just wanted to mention my late Dad since he did serve our country. RIP Dad, miss you.
Like I said, not the greatest story but guess I just wanted to mention my late Dad since he did serve our country. RIP Dad, miss you.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:19 am to The Mick
My friends uncle talks openly about his time in the war. Only story I can remember is he had 2 weeks left before he was going to go home. His superior put him on the front line going through a field which can be a death sentence. Normally new guys take that line. One of his buddies didn’t like how the superior treated him putting him on the front line. So they killed the superior. Shot him in the head as they crossed a levee.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:19 am to The Mick
I did not do a tour but I did burn my draft card and protest the war heavily while in college. Heady times.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:29 am to PetroBabich
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I did not do a tour but I did burn my draft card and protest the war heavily while in college. Heady times.
a friend of mine's brother said hell no, we won't go and went to Mexico and Japan, somehow got through med school during the war, his bil was on Trey Prather's hs football team, when Trey got killed almost the entire football team joined the Marines to go get some payback, he saw some very heavy shite and was wounded, I've been to a lot of family get togethers with them over the years and to this day they have to keep their distance from each other
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:37 am to I B Freeman
I worked offshore with one in the early 2000s. I was 3rd party and they put me in his room. They just told me he was strange.
We both went to sleep and and an hour later he is screaming "incoming, get down, get down" !
I put the light on and asked if he was OK. He looked around and said "I think so". I cut the lights off and went back to sleep. I didn't want to ask where he was or what he went through. I knew because I had read plenty on the Vietnam War. It's my favorite literature to read.
My grandfather was in WW2 and never mentioned anything about it. My mom asked him why he never talked about it. It was just the 2 of them and she told us years later.
He and his best friend enlisted. I don't know where he served. They were both in a fox hole shooting at the enemy and decided to switch sides. As soon as they switched his best friend caught a round between the eyes. That's the only thing he ever mentioned.
Me and my brothers each took turns living with him once my grandmother died for about 5 years. He never brought it up and we didn't either.
We both went to sleep and and an hour later he is screaming "incoming, get down, get down" !
I put the light on and asked if he was OK. He looked around and said "I think so". I cut the lights off and went back to sleep. I didn't want to ask where he was or what he went through. I knew because I had read plenty on the Vietnam War. It's my favorite literature to read.
My grandfather was in WW2 and never mentioned anything about it. My mom asked him why he never talked about it. It was just the 2 of them and she told us years later.
He and his best friend enlisted. I don't know where he served. They were both in a fox hole shooting at the enemy and decided to switch sides. As soon as they switched his best friend caught a round between the eyes. That's the only thing he ever mentioned.
Me and my brothers each took turns living with him once my grandmother died for about 5 years. He never brought it up and we didn't either.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:43 am to I B Freeman
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He was my neighbor growing up. I never heard him talk much about it, one time he mentioned the smell of dead bodies was something he'd never forget.
Richard was one of the best hunters I've ever known. He could walk through an open hardwood bottom and you would never know he was there. Always killed or trapped more game than anyone I knew.
He had two brothers that fought as well. His oldest brother retired from the Army. His youngest brother was in the airforce. He had a girlfriend there that was killed while they were trying to pull out of the country. When he came home he wouldn't talk to anyone but his mother for a very long time.
It's a damn shame what those boys went through over there and when they got back.
He was my neighbor growing up. I never heard him talk much about it, one time he mentioned the smell of dead bodies was something he'd never forget.
Richard was one of the best hunters I've ever known. He could walk through an open hardwood bottom and you would never know he was there. Always killed or trapped more game than anyone I knew.
He had two brothers that fought as well. His oldest brother retired from the Army. His youngest brother was in the airforce. He had a girlfriend there that was killed while they were trying to pull out of the country. When he came home he wouldn't talk to anyone but his mother for a very long time.
It's a damn shame what those boys went through over there and when they got back.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:47 am to offshoretrash
I don't live far from him if he is in Eros.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 8:48 am to thermal9221
quote:Not sure what to say here....
One of his buddies didn’t like how the superior treated him putting him on the front line. So they killed the superior. Shot him in the head as they crossed a levee.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 9:15 am to The Mick
In that war, respect goes a long way
Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:04 am to northshorebamaman
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Was there on day one in Iraq. Never went to Afghanistan.
I was the opposite, deployed twice to Afghanistan. 21B, route clearance, 2007 and 2009. I look back and it’s hard to believe it’s already been +10 years. After the military, when I started undergrad at LSU most the kids in my classes were in diapers when 9/11 hit.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:22 am to I B Freeman
All I heard everywhere was the song Fortunate Son playing. It was awful
Posted on 10/24/19 at 10:26 am to I B Freeman
My Dad was a paratrooper, served 2 tours in Viet Nam. We drank many beers together, talked about many different topics. We were pretty dam close. I asked a couple of times about his experience, he just shake his head and say I wouldnt understand.
I saw the demons and emotional scars he took from that war. I have never been in the military, but Dad help me understand(best i could) price paid for our freedom as Americans. So many young people dont have any idea....
I saw the demons and emotional scars he took from that war. I have never been in the military, but Dad help me understand(best i could) price paid for our freedom as Americans. So many young people dont have any idea....
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