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re: Any thoughts on the Honda Pilot vs other 3 row SUVs?

Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by rickgrimes
Member since Jan 2011
4254 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Buy a minivan. You wont regret it. You don't look cool hauling kids in a big SUV either.

This +1000 times. All the people here suggesting 3-row crossovers are doing the OP a great disservice. The only car the OP should be considering is one of the Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna, Chrysler Pacifica or the Kia Carnival. A minivan has none of the space and comfort compromises that these 3-row crossovers have and they have more cargo room than the ladder frame SUVs even with the 3rd row up.

No one cares what car you drive. It's all in your head. Your friends and family members have a lot of other things to worry about. Get the minivan and your kids will love you for it.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20966 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:13 pm to
We are on our second Volvo XC90. Very nice but as on poster said, you lose a lot of cargo SPCE with the third row up
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9192 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:19 pm to
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We love our Atlas.


I sat in our third row when we test drove it. Surprisingly comfortable for adults if going to dinner or across town. I also like that the middle row can move up to make more room, or move back if the third row is down. TONS of leg room in the 2nd row- bench seat or captain chair options. Last thing about cargo space- we brought giant Connect 4 and our Cornhole set to the beach this summer- previously, we could have never fit that in the Escalade, but it fit with ease in The Atlas

Biggest drawback is the gas tank size is 18-19 gallons and the fuel economy is lower, at 22-23 on interstate. It wasn’t a deal breaker for us- we get the same miles per tank as we did in the Escalade using 9 less gallons, and the wife is mostly work at home, but a friend who’s married to a pediatrician said she was ALWAYS at the gas station when making rounds to hospitals all over town.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1134 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:21 pm to
My wife has a 2020. Third seat not a problem. Runs well and rides well. Seems like a very nice car. Much better than the grand Cherokee she had before
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2890 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:45 pm to
Just cut the crap and get a Suburban FFS.
Posted by Eureeka181
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1812 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:52 pm to
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had a 2016 and it was crap.


Checking in with a crap 2016 Pilot. Transmission is shite, Honda refuses to help. They say “it’s a characteristic of my vehicle”. Once i get rid of this piece of junk, Honda won’t see another penny from me or my family.

Get a Toyota Highlander. Every day when I get into my Pilot I think “I wish I had bought the Highlander”. Not even exaggerating.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
4017 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:54 pm to
Have a 21 pilot. The transmission issue another poster mentioned was supposedly remedied. No noticeable problems for us ~7k miles in. It's a typical Honda if you have ever driven one. They somehow all feel the same when you drive them. To me, it feels less "premium" than the palisade (which i tested) but the wife preferred the Honda (she had a prior Honda and liked it). It also seemed the most friendly for small kids getting in and out of 3rd row. The Palisade was much more difficult and it felt more cramped back there.

There are less luxury features available on the Pilot than some other comparable vehicles, but you get more for your money imo. We got a Touring model for ~$40k. That's a base model Explorer and a step down in Palisade/Telluride (which are harder to find)
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3291 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Buy a minivan. You wont regret it. You don't look cool hauling kids in a big SUV either.


Honda and Toyota both make excellent minivans. Toyota is probably the best one now.

And once you have that kind of space, it’s hard to go back to a crossover or SUV unless it’s a massive Suburban or Yukon.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68864 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 12:58 pm to
We just bought my wife a new Palisade Calligraphy a couple months ago. She drove several other three row SUVs and she said the Palisade was head and shoulders above. Plus she got a 100K powertrain & electronics warranty so it was a no brainer.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3291 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Checking in with a crap 2016 Pilot. Transmission is shite, Honda refuses to help.


6 or 9 speed? The 9 speed Honda shifts rough between first and second. I think it’s a ZF. 6 speed is a Honda design which might be a bad thing when it comes to transmissions. Most of the 2018 or newer models have the 9 speed.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:05 pm to
Buy a minivan like a man.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2981 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:05 pm to
I’ve had several Hondas of all different models over the last 25 years and in every single one of them, the transmission has been rough as shite.
Posted by GumboDave
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
850 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:07 pm to
Wife has 2017 Honda Pilot. Great family vehicle. Would recommend.

I have 2019 Subaru Ascent. Also recommended.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:10 pm to
If you want a 3rd row, get a minivan or Suburban. The third rows in these mid-size SUVs are about as useless as tits on a boar hog.
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1082 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:10 pm to
2018, Have problems with Android auto. They have a class action on it and they have not found a fix. Not sure if it's a part or software problem. 3rd row is ok for adults on short rides. Like others said if you put up the 3rd row you lose a lot of storage space. No other problems on ours. I do feel like it's a minivan that doesn't exactly look like one.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4358 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:12 pm to
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This +1000 times. All the people here suggesting 3-row crossovers are doing the OP a great disservice. The only car the OP should be considering is one of the Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna, Chrysler Pacifica or the Kia Carnival. A minivan has none of the space and comfort compromises that these 3-row crossovers have and they have more cargo room than the ladder frame SUVs even with the 3rd row up.


I was anti-Mini van. Had a Tahoe. Had a Tiguan (with 3rd row). Have an Explorer (nice actually). But, the minivan is king of easy space and not feeling like you are on top of everyone else in your vehicle. I finally gave in after have a mini van rental for a week while the Tiguan was getting body work.

I added a fuse block and put two 2.0A/2.0A USB chargers in each row. I can carry 8 kids all charging cell phones and tablets simultaneously on 2.0A outlets. Boom. Even with the 3rd row in use, space behind the backseat is surprisingly large. Worse comes to worse, I'll strap shite to the roof or use a hitch haul. I do like the Explorer (2018), though. Seats are nice and ride is great. Been very reliable, have 70K miles on it. But for family duty, give me the Odyssey.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70892 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:14 pm to
The third row wouldn't be an every day thing. But the wife often brings other kids home from practice and such. Really she needs a mini van but that's a no. She wants something smaller than her current Expedition.
I looked at a few. I really liked the Atlas as well.


This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:21 pm to
I have a EX-L AWD 2017 Pilot with almost 50k on it. AWD system is excellent on dry/wet/snow, etc. I haul my dogs to trials so middle and rear seats are down flat 90%+ of the time I drive it. It has some body roll, Michelin Defender M+S tires with stiffer side walls took care of most of that. Most of the posters with transmission issues likely got the 9 speed tranny which was new 2016 forward, I got the 6 because of that and haven't had any issues although I'm up in the mountains more now and would like to have 9 speed with paddle shifters. One known issue was the fuel injectors/rails which went out on mine ~ 36k miles but have been warrantied by Honda to 150k miles or 10 years which is transferrable to future buyers, that's the only issue I have had. I know a few Highlander owners, they may be built a little better, but the rear looks smaller to me and AWD is not as good as Honda. I will likely get a truck next vehicle for the versatility.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13054 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:23 pm to
We had a 3 row minivan for 14 years. The thing was fantastic.
Posted by HalfCocked
Dirty Beach
Member since Jan 2015
2291 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 1:23 pm to
Why anyone ever buys any small/mid/large SUV thats not a Toyota baffles me. No quality issues and sell it 10 years later for 80% of what you paid new.
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