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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:56 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:It could be a starting point. Would you rather me tell you to re read the Gospels? I recommend that too.
Pascal's Wager is the opposite of faith and doesn't save someone's soul in any sense.
This is a reply to Salmon too.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:58 pm to bayoubengals88
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It could be a starting point.
seems like bad place to start
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:59 pm to Mo Jeaux
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What you don't understand is that one is either a Christian theist or an atheist, but again, I don't expect anyone to believe that, though it is true.
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This is not a popular belief, but if you do not believe in the Christian God then you don't believe in any god.
I say this because the Christian God is the only God.
While an "a"gnostic literally claims to "not know" they are still an unbeliever. They do not believe in God, therefore they are an "a"theist.
There are of course levels of atheism. Even those that are open to belief...but "agnostic" should not even be a word when it comes to the existence of God. It's illogical. You either believe in him or you suppress the knowledge of him.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:00 pm to bayoubengals88
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What you don't understand is that one is either a Christian theist or an atheist, but again, I don't expect anyone to believe that, though it is true
There are plenty of people who believe in the divine yet not necessarily the divinity of Jesus, thus theists.
There are plenty of people who are open both the possibility of God and the impossibility of God, yet not informed enough to make a choice, thus Agnostics.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:01 pm to bayoubengals88
Oh OK. Similar in some respects to how Muslims believe that everyone is a Muslim. It's just that some people have not embraced Islam.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:01 pm to bayoubengals88
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I've yet to meet an atheist (or if you insist on using "agnostic") that has possessed an understanding of Christianity. This includes apostates.
What an utter load of nonsense.
I didn't pop out of the ground agnostic. I went to church almost all of my life until adulthood and studied it in school for 13 years. I know as much or more about Christianity and religion as most people.
I'm sure many understand it just fine.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:03 pm to Celery
quote:That's fine that you believe that, but for me to be a consistent Christian I would have to say that those people are atheist, meaning that they deny the true God.
There are plenty of people who believe in the divine yet not necessarily the divinity of Jesus, thus theists.
quote:You can be open to the possibility that a stock might reach $100. You cannot be open to the possibility that God exists. It's not a natural thought. I'm getting into the Bible now. Again, when you know Christianity well you know the things I'm saying to be consistent with what Christianity actually is.
There are plenty of people who are open both the possibility of God and the impossibility of God, yet not informed enough to make a choice, thus Agnostics.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:05 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:and you were but an atheist.
I went to church almost all of my life until adulthood and studied it in school for 13 years. I know as much or more about Christianity and religion as most people.
You never acknowledged that God is who the Bible says he is. Catholic, Baptist, it doesn't matter. It's 100% binary.
What you thought God was, was what you made him to be. An anthropomorphic "god". No God at all.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:08 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I'm essentially saying what AW Pink said when he wrote this:
What an utter load of nonsense.
"The "god" of this twentieth century no more resembles the Supreme Sovereign of Holy Writ than does the dim flickering of a candle the glory of the midday sun. The "god" who is now talked about in the average pulpit, spoken of in the ordinary Sunday School, mentioned in much of the religious literature of the day, and preached in most of the so-called Bible conferences is the figment of human imagination, an invention of maudlin sentimentality. The heathen outside of the pale of Christendom form "gods" out of wood and stone, while millions of heathen inside Christendom manufacture a "god" out of their own carnal mind. A "god" whose will is resisted, whose designs are frustrated, whose purpose is checkmated, possesses no title to Deity, and so far from being a fit object of worship, merits nought but contempt."
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:10 pm to bayoubengals88
Ah yes. You are one of those Christians. The holiest of holies.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:10 pm to Salmon
quote:The real kind with a knowledge of the Bible, yes.
Ah yes. You are one of those Christians.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:12 pm to Salmon
quote:Oh no. Far from it. Reading theology and listening to theological lectures tends to produce a better understanding of Christianity than the folks who never read theology or listen to theological lectures.
The holiest of holies.
That should be fairly straightforward.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:12 pm to bayoubengals88
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The real kind
subjective
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:15 pm to Salmon
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The holiest of holies.
I'm not a fundamentalist.
But it looks like we are done with the topic at hand.
I'll have any discussion or field any question you may have about Christianity.
This goes for anyone. bayoubengals1988@gmail.com
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:18 pm to Salmon
quote:know the other side
till next time
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:23 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Far from it. Not everyone is a Christian nor will everyone be a Christian.
Oh OK. Similar in some respects to how Muslims believe that everyone is a Muslim. It's just that some people have not embraced Islam.
But if you're not a Christian then you're not a Christian. Theist or Atheist. There's no "searching" or "I don't know if God exists" kind of middle ground.
There are only those that follow God
and
There are those who suppress his existence with their every thought.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:25 pm to Tunasntigers92
What is crazy is about 95% of the responses didn't answer your question.
I'll go with approximately 40-65,000 years ago
I'll go with approximately 40-65,000 years ago
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:25 pm to bayoubengals88
Breaking news: This Christian thinks they are the REAL Christian, not one of those fake Christians. HIS version of Christianity is the REAL one.
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