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re: Anthropologists, at what point do you believe we became sentient?

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Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:53 pm to
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Sure, I get that. I’m mostly in agreement, which is why I tend to believe in some form of intelligent creation. I don’t know how to label that, whether it’s God, gods, a “divine” computer computer programmer, or just any form of intelligent being, but I have no problem with intelligent design. I also, have no problem with random design and I wouldn’t declare with authority that either side is right or wrong. They all seem equally probable and equally improbable from my limited point of view. My brain is too small and my logic is too falable to fully comprehend anything to a point of absolute assurance.

Here you go friend. You're well on your way

Christian Apologetics. If this course doesn't address your every question, I'd be shocked.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:55 pm to
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hint: A Theory can never become a Law. But it can still be an absolute fact.

That's actually really funny. Thanks.

Ever wondered why that's the case?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:58 pm to
Can we take this thread to another level and discuss AI becoming sentient?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:59 pm to
Theories describe laws

This is basic stuff
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Then use words that mean what you want to say.

substitutes or saying things "in other words" did just as well. There was no confusion on my part.

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Says the guy who thinks the existence of god is proven? Not only that, but your "proof" of this is due to a lack of proof of something else. "This is not proven, therefore my alternative idea is proven". Absurd.

The only thing that I've really attempted to prove is that materialism doesn't provide real answers in matters of conscience. If one wants to appeal to what determines "right from wrong" one must accept that there are universal standards of morality.

All of these things point to overwhelming evidence in favor of God. I can't make you believe.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Can we take this thread to another level and discuss AI becoming sentient?

Take what to another thread? The existence of God? It would get whacked.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Theories describe laws

How did materialism lead to laws? I missed that part.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:05 pm to
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Ever wondered why that's the case?


I know why it is the case. You do not.

You need to open up a science book.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:08 pm to
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How did materialism lead to laws? I missed that part.


evolution
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:17 pm to
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You need to open up a science book.



How would opening a science book benefit the following:

1)The way I interact with people
2)The way I raise kids. I can actually teach mine about a basis for morality.
3)The way I teach my students
4)The peace I have no matter the circumstances
5)The joy of knowing that an eternal significance awaits
6) That the creator of the universe is personal

Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:18 pm to
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evolution
Still arbitrary.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Still arbitrary.


Yeah. Our laws are not constant. They evolve.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:21 pm to
I applaud you gentlemen for having a civil discussion today.

You didn't even call me names or make fun of me too much for believing what the vast number of people have believed everywhere for many centuries.

I pray that you will continue thinking through some of these issues, and that you will become restless living a life that you know has no meaning or purpose.

And I pray that your restlessness will lead you to continue searching for the God whose existence you already acknowledge in your daily actions.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Yeah. Our laws are not constant. They evolve.

Speed limits evolve. Murder does not.

You do not acknowledge universal truths I assume?

Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:23 pm to
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1)The way I interact with people


Being more learned and intelligent would benefit all peoples.

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2)The way I raise kids


You can bring them up to be educated.

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3)The way I teach my students


You're a teacher??????????????????????

Ouch.

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4)The peace I have no matter the circumstances
5)The joy of knowing that an eternal significance awaits
6) That the creator of the universe is personal


I mean I guess it wouldn't and I'm not sure why anyone would care except yourself.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:24 pm to
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Murder does not.


the concept of murder has definitely evolved.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Speed limits evolve. Murder does not.


the legality of justified murders do evolve

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You do not acknowledge universal truths I assume?


nope
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Being more learned and intelligent would benefit all peoples.

touche.

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You can bring them up to be educated.

Am I not? Can I not be educated and a Christian? I don't dismiss science. I just take it for what it is...something that explains some cool things, but far from something that explains all things.

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You're a teacher??????????????????????

History. Why is this surprising? Does having thoughts about religion make one unintelligent and unfit to teach in a classroom? That would be a shame. I wonder what percentage of all teachers throughout all time where Christians? I'd hate to know a world in which they never taught.
You should really think a bit longer before insulting folks.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:29 pm to
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the concept of murder has definitely evolved.

That's fair, but it's far from a defeater.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
25975 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:30 pm to
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the legality of justified murders do evolve

That's fair, but it's far from a defeater.

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You do not acknowledge universal truths I assume?
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nope
Thank goodness. Then there's no way that you can prove I'm wrong.

Which is another way to say, it would be best if you at least considered what I've said today.
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